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    INTP - The Thinkers

    I'm still lost on my MBTI type, possible NT type, or ENFP

    The first time I took the MBTI test I scored INTJ, I was vary depressed and stressed at the time though and that probably effected the outcome. I also have scored ENTP and ENTJ in the past. I do realize that free online MBTI test are bull s***, but they can give you a jumping off point. You can skip to the bottom "in sum" portion if you don't feel like reading through 27 descriptions,so here goes-

    1. I feel depressed when I am alone, but I only enjoy socializing with my inner circle of 5 or 6 friends, however I do enjoy talking with some people on my dorm floor I barely know.

    2. When socializing I am a chameleon, in that I behave much like my environment would dictate I behave, I make jokes at a rave but am dead serious in my college classes.

    3. I can't stand the thought of having a roommate so I have a single dorm room, yet I need to be around people or I feel dull.

    4. In my classes, when I am placed in groups to discuss a text I constantly am angry with people taking the reigns of the group and steering the team in a direction I don't want to go. I hate when they ignore my input.

    5. I constantly seem to just understand a concept without being able to explain how, for instance I figured out discreet math within merely minutes of reading my friends textbook

    6. I love science but am too lazy to major in a hard science, so I spend my time reading theoretical physics books just for fun.

    7. I constantly come to judgments about people, for instance when I see the group of college students smoking outside of my dorm I think to myself, "good to see the bottom 10% of my high school class is giving college a try"

    8. I theorize everything just for fun, I try to explain everything, for instance why people use facebook more than twitter, why the girls in my dorm behave in the same manner as their RA's, etc.

    9. I feel a need to change humanity through the things I build, not the things I do, I am more like Steve Jobs than Bono in that I just want to build software, not help dying children in Africa.

    10. I spend a fare mount of time reflecting, generally on negative things that happened to me, so I may think about how a friend stabbed me in the back and how I can prevent that from happening in the future.

    11. My ideas can be "out there", like a plan to conquer the world

    12. I try to avoid people that I deem a waste of time, especially people I don't like. I will eat at a different dining hall to avoid someone I dislike.

    13. I dislike incompetence and stupidity. I can put up with the most narcissistic, egocentric, insane individual if I think he's smart.

    14. I take on the characteristics of the person I am with. I have a quite friend who I am quite with, I have a loud friend I am very loud with, it's like this with all of my friends.

    15. As a child I never shut up, but I only had a hand full of friends.

    16. I get bored with people, or pissed at people, and discard them as if they never existed.

    17. The biggest driving force in my life is to change the world, it has always been that way, I want to start companies that innovate the things I deem faulty

    18. I teach people things by insulting them until they arrive at the answer themselves, I don't like to just tell the truth I want to force people to think, how else will they learn?

    19. I hate when people take offence to criticism, I dislike people who view the world as place to sit around and sing coom by ya and go cry when I say Art majors are barefoot hippies who have the easiest major known to man, a major that everyone makes fun of.

    20. I am generally right, and when I tell people something, they almost always go against what I say and as a result screw up. These are people I can't stand.

    21. On the other hand, I love people who see the future for what it could be, who dare to dream of new technology, of better ways to do things, people who support my ideas are very close to me.

    22. I am not organized, but I can organize people to carry out task.

    23. I speak in metaphors and similes, I try to connect everything I am seeing to things I have seen for humor. I like to make sarcastic remarks as well.

    24. I like to make ungodly long list on personality cafe.com because I have no friends so this is my entire Friday night

    25. I read books on physics, calculus, neuroscience, psychology, economics, diffeq, linear algebra, philosophy and really anything I can just pick up and read in a day or so for instance, I read an architecture book yesterday for lolz, I feel like I have a Good Will Hunting thing going on. Though I sound more like Dr. House or Ari Gold when I speak.

    26. I see patterns naturally, I immediately notice the different patterns in a text or in art, literally anything anywhere at any time.

    27. I freak out when my ISFP mother says something offensive to another person, but on some levels its funny, but I still use humor to defuse these situations.

    In sum, I love/hate people, I want to change the world, I love science, art, technology and abstract principles such as those found in Physics and economics, prefer to be around my friends, I enjoy critical thinking, I want to know everything so that I can use it at will (breaking out diffeq in a english class for lolz!). INTJ seems to fit but I also think ENTJ and ENTP could fit. I feel more Fe than Fi, but I am not sure. Also I have an IQ of 151 according to my psychologist, I am a type 3w4 sx-sp ennegram, and a ILE socionics type.



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    ENFP - The Inspirers

    i'll be yo friend.
    okay, here's my input.
    i have no idea what your type may be, but i will start with this.

    you sound intutive, as are most people on this forum. keep studying the functions. it's really the only way to learn. i became really obsessed with learning my type and even now, a year later i'm still unsure of the exact thing i am but i know i am a high Ne user and a high Fi user. we use all the functions, but looking at people and seeing patterns in them is a good reflection. for example, you say it bothers you a lot of people at your college campus stand outside and smoke? you already see the contradiction there? maybe that's a very broad example of their use of Se. of course, each and every one of those people is probably not Se dominant. but seeing that kind of pattern may help. now the next question would be to ask yourself, am i somebody that uses high Se? What kind of person uses high Se? Hope you can see where i'm getting at. once you kind of see that there are some archetypes to these functions, you can probably then weed some of them out from the ones you use more in everyday life to the ones you use the least.

    take into account the personalities and people around you to see how the cognitive functions are channeling through them. sometimes it can be hard to start with yourself, at least it was for me. but really this is how i've been learning, and so far so good. check out dave superpowers on youtube if you haven't seen his stuff, he's very clear and concise at helping people with mbti.

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    INFP - The Idealists

    Compare Basic and Pro Personality Tests

    Try this site. It's more professional. Click on the "Basic Personality Type Test", create and account, and you're good to go :)

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    INFP - The Idealists

    I would guess INTP. The preferred inner circle is common among introverts. The INTJ and ENTJ are often into hard sciences, they are generally organized, and not very lazy. They are also not that into changing things and the INTJ is rarely a social chameolon.

    And if your IQ is that high I think it's only fair to mention this article, in case you haven't read it, about type dynamics: https://www.capt.org/JPT/article/JPT_Vol69_0109.pdf

  6. #5
    INTJ - The Scientists

    1. I feel depressed when I am alone, but I only enjoy socializing with my inner circle of 5 or 6 friends, however I do enjoy talking with some people on my dorm floor I barely know.
    Extravert. You've given nothing to the contrary. Extraverts can "like" having small groups of friends for any reason, but you seem like you can handle more, I guess.

    2. When socializing I am a chameleon, in that I behave much like my environment would dictate I behave, I make jokes at a rave but am dead serious in my college classes.
    Fe type.

    3. I can't stand the thought of having a roommate so I have a single dorm room, yet I need to be around people or I feel dull.
    Obvious extravert. I need to be alone, or I feel worn.

    4. In my classes, when I am placed in groups to discuss a text I constantly am angry with people taking the reigns of the group and steering the team in a direction I don't want to go. I hate when they ignore my input.
    Not type related.

    5. I constantly seem to just understand a concept without being able to explain how, for instance I figured out discreet math within merely minutes of reading my friends textbook
    High N type.

    8. I theorize everything just for fun, I try to explain everything, for instance why people use facebook more than twitter, why the girls in my dorm behave in the same manner as their RA's, etc.
    Ne dom.

    9. I feel a need to change humanity through the things I build, not the things I do, I am more like Steve Jobs than Bono in that I just want to build software, not help dying children in Africa.
    Ne-Fe

    10. I spend a fare mount of time reflecting, generally on negative things that happened to me, so I may think about how a friend stabbed me in the back and how I can prevent that from happening in the future.
    Inferior Si.

    11. My ideas can be "out there", like a plan to conquer the world
    High Ne, I'm thinking.

    13. I dislike incompetence and stupidity. I can put up with the most narcissistic, egocentric, insane individual if I think he's smart.
    High T - I'm thinking aux. Ti.

    15. As a child I never shut up, but I only had a hand full of friends.
    Extravert.

    18. I teach people things by insulting them until they arrive at the answer themselves, I don't like to just tell the truth I want to force people to think, how else will they learn?
    High T type. Sounds like Ti "parenting" (so, aux.), since you don't guide their thinking, the way Te would.

    I'm not even going any further, because you're an obvious ENTP. There's a lot of Ne-Fe in your post. You're clearly not an Fi type. It's pretty much like Ne doms to make these posts to begin with, as I'm coming to notice, haha.
    Julia Bell, Briguy and counterintuitive thanked this post.

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    INTP - The Thinkers

    I'm not even going any further, because you're an obvious ENTP. There's a lot of Ne-Fe in your post. You're clearly not an Fi type. It's pretty much like Ne doms to make these posts to begin with, as I'm coming to notice, haha.
    I must say though that I do spend a ton of time alone, which I dislike but to be completely honest I never go knock on my friends door when I am board on a Saturday. I eat alone every night, I go on walks alone, and when I am working on a problem I prefer to go to my room and find the solution, similar to the way Dr House behaves. This has lead me to believe that I could be an INTP, considering in order to really get me to talk I need to be comfortable first. The real question then becomes what is the difference between Ne-Ti and Ti-Ne? I must say that I feel more comfortable going places with my close friends, I have a difficult time conducting a conversation with someone I barely know. Of course I do feel a need to keep the conversation rolling with my friends to the point that I hijack the conversation and talk incessantly. But on the other hand, I don't identify with a INTP like Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerberg because they are just so awkward when they speak, they don't even appear to be comfortable on stage. I always feel comfortable when speaking in public and I don't like to keep quite around my friends, the real question here is, is this type related?

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by Briguy View Post
    I must say though that I do spend a ton of time alone, which I dislike but to be completely honest I never go knock on my friends door when I am board on a Saturday. I eat alone every night, I go on walks alone, and when I am working on a problem I prefer to go to my room and find the solution, similar to the way Dr House behaves. This has lead me to believe that I could be an INTP, considering in order to really get me to talk I need to be comfortable first. The real question then becomes what is the difference between Ne-Ti and Ti-Ne? I must say that I feel more comfortable going places with my close friends, I have a difficult time conducting a conversation with someone I barely know. Of course I do feel a need to keep the conversation rolling with my friends to the point that I hijack the conversation and talk incessantly. But on the other hand, I don't identify with a INTP like Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerberg because they are just so awkward when they speak, they don't even appear to be comfortable on stage. I always feel comfortable when speaking in public and I don't like to keep quite around my friends, the real question here is, is this type related?
    Do you have social anxiety or have issues with certain kinds of people? That isn't type-related, btw.

  9. #8
    INTP - The Thinkers

    Quote Originally Posted by JungyesMBTIno View Post
    Do you have social anxiety or have issues with certain kinds of people? That isn't type-related, btw.
    I may have Social Anxiety, however I would say its more of a paradox, I like to be around people but at the same time I don't feel a need to find people to be around. My ideal life would consist of me being around people often but in reality this does not happen. I remember in high school I hated going out and being around people, I only liked my 2 close friends and I had a few more friends that I wasn't quite as close with. I remember feeling depressed from 8th grade to my freshman year in college, and I now wonder if I was depressed because of my lack of socializing. My parents also seemed to have screwed me up by homeschooling me, which was just awful and is my biggest regret in life, it is at the very core of my being the thing that dominates every facet of who I am, my self esteem, ego, narcissism, self worth, world view, and behavior can all be tied to that fact, but I have side railed myself. To answer your second question, I do have a problem with certain people, but not my closest friends. The real problem is that I spend so much time alone analyzing my interactions with people that I assume they don't like me, which is why I read books on Quantum Loop Physics as a means to quite those thoughts and force my mind to become occupied with something complicated rather than my social life. The only people I have a problem with are dumb people and sadly their are quite a few around me, but my close friends are all geeks and nerds. Of course at the end of my freshman year (I am now a sophomore) my close friends at that time chose a big dumb jock over me, which is surprising because why would a Physics major, math major, psychology major and a computer engineer leave me for a criminal justice major who's knowledge of sports center out ways his knowledge of basic math. So to answer your question, I do have a problem with people I find stupid and do not challenge me , but I choose people who are smart to be my friend in the first place, of course they seem to leave me in the end anyways.

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Down to the cognitive functions, dominant Ne types "needing" to be around people isn't much of a necessity, really, since Ne isn't really a social function - Fe would be the most, based on the nature of it. It's quite possible that the "real you" might be who you see yourself as in an ideal life though. If you're comfortable enough being around people for extended periods of time, then you seem enough like an extrovert, likely with a well balanced aux. function, which might be behind you coming off more introverted at times.
    Briguy and ElectricSparkle thanked this post.

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    INTP - The Thinkers

    Quote Originally Posted by JungyesMBTIno View Post
    Down to the cognitive functions, dominant Ne types "needing" to be around people isn't much of a necessity, really, since Ne isn't really a social function - Fe would be the most, based on the nature of it. It's quite possible that the "real you" might be who you see yourself as in an ideal life though. If you're comfortable enough being around people for extended periods of time, then you seem enough like an extrovert, likely with a well balanced aux. function, which might be behind you coming off more introverted at times.
    I would have to agree about the aux function. Sometimes I feel like I am trapped in a Ti-Si loop, this could lend to my reclusive behavior from time to time. By Ti-Si loop I mean my need to over analyze things which have happened to me in the past. I spent the entire summer replaying one specific indecent which led to the falling out between friends, I replayed the argument in my head whenever I was alone, I thought of different ways to handle the situation. I doubt this is Ni-Fi which is why I ruled out INTJ. I don't know if this would be a INTP problem as much as a ENTP problem due to our inferior Si. I wonder what inferior Si looks like in a ENTP vs Si in an INTP. Would an INTP have a tendency to over analyze something to that extent?


     
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