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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Differences between ENFP and ENTP?

    I was just wondering what some of the differences of Enfp and Entp were. I had always classified myself as a Enfp, but after more tests showing up as Entp, I'm just not quite sure. So, I was wondering if some of you lovely people on here could tell me some of the characteristics of an Enfp and an Entp; as I would rather not spill out my whole life story for a thread that will probably only get like, 2 replies. Merci~! :)



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    ENFJ - The Givers

    Well, let's see an ENTP's cognitive functions are Ne, Ti, Fe, Si, Ni, Te, Fi, Se whereas an ENFP's cognitive functions are Ne, Fi, Te, Si, Ni, Fe, Ti, Se. So, both use extraverted intuition as their main function. ENFPs auxiliary function is Fi. Fi holds very strong moral values, they have very high opinions of how things should be, they are very individual, they do not conform, they tune into a person very quickly looking for similar values, and they make judgements constantly whether things coincide with their values or not.
    The tertiary function of ENFPs is Te. Te is all about organizing and categorizing ideas or things, they see the logical consequences of their actions, it allows us to compartmentalize in order to get things done, these people are usually very good at structuring essays or ideas, they're very step by step oriented.

    The auxiliary function of ENTPs is Ti. Introverted thinkers are very good at problem solving and analysis. They can read through something and notice all of the logical inconsistencies that don't coincide with the original framework. They're very good at analyzing ideas and things or taking them apart to figure out how they work. They are constantly looking for the ways to solve something.
    The tertiary function of ENTPs is Fe which is completely different from Fi. Fe is about conformity, pleasing others, self-sacrifice, getting along with the group, fitting in, helping others, they like to relate and connect with other people, and they're very good at generally "knowing" what people need.

    So, if you actually analyze it by the functions they are quite different. Also, your tertiary functions are used a lot less often than your dominant and auxiliary functions, but are still recognizable in your behavior. Which set most matches yourself?
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    ENTP - The Visionaries


    Quote Originally Posted by CassieBlue View Post
    I was just wondering what some of the differences of Enfp and Entp were. I had always classified myself as a Enfp, but after more tests showing up as Entp, I'm just not quite sure. So, I was wondering if some of you lovely people on here could tell me some of the characteristics of an Enfp and an Entp
    Well, since I respond well to flattery... I'll humor you.

    The clearest way to tell the difference between the two is in looking at Ti vs. Fi. Both are big-idea people that have very little patience with doing things just because they've always been done a certain way. The difference is, ENTPs tend to internalize the logic of a given system; so, we accept and reject the importance of ideas based on how accurate and logically consistent they are, according to the logical principles chosen by the ENTP in question. ENFPs have the same process, but they evaluate things based on how they fit in with the ethical framework chosen by the ENFP in question.

    ENTP: "I don't like this idea; I won't go along with it, because it violates X, Y, Z logical rules"
    ENFP: "I don't like this idea; I won't go along with it, because it violates X, Y, Z ethical rules"

    Now, either type can like logical consistency or ethics, but the difference is, ENTPs primarily process things with their inner logical framework, and ethics play a much smaller role in whether they accept or reject a given idea. ENFPs, on the other hand, primarily process things with their inner value system (which may or may not line up with everyone else's), and reject or accept ideas based on how they line up with said value system; the logic of it plays less of a part in whether or not the ENFP would consider it a good idea.

    The tertiary function in ENTPs (I'm just going to explain tertary Fe, since I'm less familiar with how tertiary Te manifests itself in ENFPs) basically translates into an awareness of how their statements and ideas will affect other people, in an emotional sense. So, this can translate into heightened emotional sensitivity and/or heightened manipulative skills (generally, the latter develop before the former). It also leads to a tendency for ENTPs to like provoking reactions in others, and we sometimes come off as a bit narcissistic.

    So, to summarize, with an ENTP, you have someone who's analytical, incisive, and becomes more socially aware and charming as they grow older. With an ENFP, you have someone who's value-oriented, personally convicted, and becomes more pragmatic and clear-minded as they grow older.

    as I would rather not spill out my whole life story for a thread that will probably only get like, 2 replies. Merci~! :)
    Oh, you seriously underestimated how much people like typing others around here (myself included)...
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    @TemptedFate
    So, if you actually analyze it by the functions they are quite different. Also, your tertiary functions are used a lot less often than your dominant and auxiliary functions, but are still recognizable in your behavior. Which set most matches yourself?
    What if I can see myself as both? I take things apart to see how they work, and know what people would need or want, and analyze things like an ENTP would, but I also have the very high morals and make judgement with them like of that an ENFP possesses. Maybe, I'll forever be just a ENxP. :P


    @Dark Romantic
    So, to summarize, with an ENTP, you have someone who's analytical, incisive, and becomes more socially aware and charming as they grow older. With an ENFP, you have someone who's value-oriented, personally convicted, and becomes more pragmatic and clear-minded as they grow older.
    What about a person who has these traits equally? I'd say I analyze what all's going on all around me, while staying Value-oriented? And so on. :0. Gosh, I just fail at life. xD.

    Oh, you seriously underestimated how much people like typing others around here (myself included)...
    Maybe, I'll post stuff then... Maybe. C:

    YAY! First time using quotes on here, Hopefully I used them properly. xD
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    ENFP - The Inspirers

    Wow, great responses from the ENTP's. You bascially said everything i would have said. I don't know how easy it is to tell these types apart. At a glance, in communication it will be hard, especially if the ENFP in question has a well developed Te. We both lead with Ne, and as it was mentioned ENFP use Fi, ENTP, Ti. These two functions can actually look similiar also. They're both subjective, and the user will hold on very strongly to what they believe whether it be logical or ethical. For me it comes down to Fe vs Fi. This is the easiest way for me to see the difference between these two types. Since my Fi is so strong compared to my Fe which is basically non existent, this is how i know i'm not ENTP. If you can relate with the Fe in an ENTP, you're probably not an ENFP. Fe/Fi are polar opposite, if you study the functions and how they operate, the difference will become obvious and clear. Good luck, lots of information online if you do some research.:)

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    ENFJ - The Givers

    Quote Originally Posted by MuChApArAdOx View Post
    Wow, great responses from the ENTP's. You bascially said everything i would have said. I don't know how easy it is to tell these types apart. At a glance, in communication it will be hard, especially if the ENFP in question has a well developed Te. We both lead with Ne, and as it was mentioned ENFP use Fi, ENTP, Ti. These two functions can actually look similiar also. They're both subjective, and the user will hold on very strongly to what they believe whether it be logical or ethical. For me it comes down to Fe vs Fi. This is the easiest way for me to see the difference between these two types. Since my Fi is so strong compared to my Fe which is basically non existent, this is how i know i'm not ENTP. If you can relate with the Fe in an ENTP, you're probably not an ENFP. Fe/Fi are polar opposite, if you study the functions and how they operate, the difference will become obvious and clear. Good luck, lots of information online if you do some research.:)
    This is almost exactly what I was just about to add on :P! The main questions is, if you were in a group would you rather stick with what you believe in or conform to make everyone else happy? One is all about remaining true to yourself while the other is about making other people happy; they are complete opposites from one another.

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    ENTP - The Visionaries


    Quote Originally Posted by TemptedFate View Post
    This is almost exactly what I was just about to add on :P! The main questions is, if you were in a group would you rather stick with what you believe in or conform to make everyone else happy? One is all about remaining true to yourself while the other is about making other people happy; they are complete opposites from one another.
    Mmm... I wouldn't put it like that. Fe doesn't mean conformity to the moral beliefs of the masses (otherwise, you wouldn't see any INFJs capable of holding an independent moral stance), it means that your idea of what's morally valid has an external focus, not an internal one. Fe would look at an action and judge it based mainly how it affected others, how much suffering it caused, how much joy and/or improvement came about as a result, etc. while Fi would make the same judgment based on their internal system of right vs not right. ENxPs in general are huge non-conformists.
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    ENTP - The Visionaries


    Quote Originally Posted by CassieBlue View Post
    @TemptedFate

    What if I can see myself as both? I take things apart to see how they work, and know what people would need or want, and analyze things like an ENTP would, but I also have the very high morals and make judgement with them like of that an ENFP possesses. Maybe, I'll forever be just a ENxP. :P
    Do your morals have an internal focus (meaning, you base the moral value of a given action on how it relates to your feelings on it), or is it an external one (where you base it on how it affects others)? Are you analyzing things so that they make logical sense in a closed system, or is application and the result the main focus (so, are you concerned with designing things so that they're internally consistent, or are you more concerned with making sure things are running smoothly, and that the bottom line is being served?)
    What about a person who has these traits equally? I'd say I analyze what all's going on all around me, while staying Value-oriented? And so on. :0. Gosh, I just fail at life.
    Well, everyone learns both lessons. The question is, have you gone from being colder, more detached, and less in-touch with the people around you, to becoming warmer, more engaging, and learning how to relate more empathetically to others? Or, have you gone from being incredibly idealistic, seeing the world largely through a lens of moral potential (saying things like "if people were like this and this, the world would be an awesome place to live!"), and often out of touch with reality, to being more grounded, practical, and realistic?

    I know you can see how you've done both (damn Ne), but pick the one which resonates the deepest, or the one which makes the most sense.
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    ENFP - The Inspirers

    Quote Originally Posted by CassieBlue View Post
    What about a person who has these traits equally? I'd say I analyze what all's going on all around me, while staying Value-oriented? And so on. :0. Gosh, I just fail at life. xD.
    Hi, I'm an ENFP and am married to an ENTP so I have some close contact to the differences between these two types. I would also focus on whether you prefer Ti versus Fi. One thing that I would say can be a good outside indicator of your preference between the two is if you examine what your deepest ambitions and ideals are. In your dreams how would you like to change the world? What kinds of goals would drive you until your dying day? In other words, what is your subjective, emotional reaction toward using Ti vs using Fi in situations where you have an option and are not compelled by the circumstances to use one or the other?

    My husband's ambitions are more to do with the nature and functioning of overarching systems and frameworks and devising these frameworks. It is big-picture thinking but in an impersonal way, the big picture above the individual although it would benefit the individual. He finds that kind of thing really interesting and is creative in that direction.

    In contrast, I as an ENFP, although I can apply my brain in that way if I have to, it is too dry for me. It is not inspiring. I am more ambitious in the realm of Fi. I am interested in the big picture but in the internal, subjective world of people, not the overarching external frameworks wherein they exist. I am interested in the frameworks that govern the internal experience. I enjoy connecting to those internal worlds in others and would find it more satisfying to have an impact on that level rather than on the external level. I think for an ENTP, having to practically deal with the subjective side of individual people's reality and feelings would be really exhausting.
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Hi, I'm a newbie, completely new and trying to take this all in. When I was 19, I took the MB for an employment placement program, it was quite extensive and I scored ENTP. Over the years, I've retaken the test and gotten different results, from INTP to ENFP to most recently doing a 144 question test on similarminds.com.

    Here's what I scored:

    Extroverted (E) 58.82% Introverted (I) 41.18%
    Intuitive (N) 57.89% Sensing (S) 42.11%
    Thinking (T) 51.22% Feeling (F) 48.78%
    Perceiving (P) 55.88% Judging (J) 44.12%

    As you can see, my Thinking and Feeling are so literally close, I don't know what to make of it. Based on the early responses to this thread, I would say I feel more ENTP, but then there's more: I've been diagnosed as bipolar, I'm Aquarius, and I'm an only-child. So could I be a through-and-through ENTP with the bipolar sensitivity to the outside world, or am I even bipolar or just misdiagnosed in general? I am extremely sensitive, and people who barely know me question my sexuality because of my comfort with admitting liking things like pop music or reality TV or not playing sports...

    I'd really appreciate some input and I do believe you guys have a lot of great points, so thanks a lot for adding to the knowledge-base with call the internet!


 
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