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    ISFJ or INFJ?

    Could anyone help me figure out if I'm an ISFJ or INFJ? I don't have a good understanding on Si or Ni



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    Ni vs Si:

    Ni vs Si - Funky MBTI in Fiction

    Difference between Si and Se:

    What would you say is the difference between si... - Confessions of a Myers Briggs-aholic

    3 ways to know if you're not an INFJ:

    Am I an INFJ? 3 Ways to Know if You’re Not – INFJ Blog

    Am I an INFJ or ISFJ:

    Am I an INFJ or an ISFJ



    The childhood struggles of each myers briggs type:

    The Childhood Struggles of Every Myers Briggs Type - Psychology Junkie

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    Unknown Personality

    Is really sentimentality associated with Si? I'm supposed to be an ISFJ, but I don't feel indentified with this at all. The anniversary thing is BS in my opinion, I always seek to do different and exciting things. I also dislike when people are too sentimental and can't move forward, one has to accept that this is how the world works. I also tend to think about the future a lot, although I get impatient and want those things to happen in the present.

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    @Goya

    Is really sentimentality associated with Si? I'm supposed to be an ISFJ, but I don't feel identified with this at all. The anniversary thing is BS in my opinion, I always seek to do different and exciting things. I also dislike when people are too sentimental and can't move forward, one has to accept that this is how the world works. I also tend to think about the future a lot, although I get impatient and want those things to happen in the present.
    From my understanding and experience I would say yes sentiment is associated with Si. Non-Si users can be sentimental but sentiment is most closely correlated to Si. Have you thought maybe INFJ?

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    Unknown Personality

    Quote Originally Posted by Kitty23 View Post
    @Goya



    From my understanding and experience I would say yes sentiment is associated with Si. Non-Si users can be sentimental but sentiment is most closely correlated to Si. Have you thought maybe INFJ?
    Yes, but I don't quite identify with Ni. I tend to be quite indecesive about the future, for example, growing up I had not idea what I wanted to do (and I still don't know xD). From what I've read, Ni have a clear vision and goal about what they want.

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    @Goya

    Te is also goal oriented as well.

    Have you seen this link? It shows you what each functions looks like in all 4 positions:

    Cognitive Functions - Funky MBTI in Fiction

    This link also shows you what the functions look like in real life:

    plz , the different in functions in real life :D ? - Funky MBTI in Fiction

    Say a group of people all go to a theme park together.

    Extroverted Sensing (Se) is busy noticing all the details of the park and the people in it. Sights. Sounds. Colors. Oh, cool. That ride flips upside down! I’m going to try that. Do you smell those hotdogs? Aren’t they great? I think we ought to go bungee jumping… it’s only $50 for a group of $12! Which way is the Tower of Terror? I’m going to ride down it and watch all you sissies wet your pants when it drops 50 feet in 12 seconds!

    Extroverted Intuition (Ne) sees the possibilities of the park. Look at those two people. You can tell they’re not “together” anymore, but just hanging out for the kid’s sake. See their body language? How many rides are in this park? Do you think anyone ever died here? I think they should put a new ride in this space. Call it the Haunted House of Horrors, and have Dead Presidents in it. You know, they could put up an entire haunted SECTION of the park. That would be awesome. Who do I call to pitch that idea? Stay away from the guy in the red hat. He gives me vibes. Ooh, you know, I could write a story about a murder in a theme park! He could die because the Tilt a Whirl malfunctioned. No, no, because the Tower of Terror ride didn’t stop, it crashed the elevator to the bottom floor! His sister did it. No, his uncle! No, the theme park guy, because he’s freakin’ insane.

    Extroverted Thinking (Te) is busy organizing others and coming up with “battle plans.” Which direction do we go first? Give me the park map. Okay, where do we want to be by noon? When and where do we meet for lunch? Who is in charge of watching the kid? Which rides do what? When is the bus leaving? What do we have time for? How long are the lines? Okay, everyone who wants to go on these twelve rides, line up to the left! Everyone else to the right! We meet back here at 7pm! No stragglers! Does everyone have their phone on? Good!

    Extroverted Feeling (Fe) makes sure everyone feels involved and has their needs met. Does everyone have a buddy? Nobody should be alone! Let’s go to the bathroom first, okay? How do we feel about hamburgers for lunch? Is that okay? Let’s meet over there, shall we? Does everyone know the plan, so no one is left behind? Let’s take a vote on which direction to go first! Fe will go on a ride it doesn’t like so a friend doesn’t have to do it alone.

    Introverted Sensing (Si) relates everything around them to past experience. Last time I was here, I threw up on that ride; I’m not going on it again. Oh, hey, that’s the bench I sat on when so-and-so kissed me! Oh, good, the line is shorter this year. Why does this slushie taste different? I think they put less cherry cola in it than before! I feel ripped off. OR… I’ve never been to a theme park before, but that Ferris wheel reminds me of that scene in The Notebook, when Noah won’t take no for an answer, until Allie agrees to go on a date with him…

    Introverted Intuition (Ni) knows what will happen before it happens. I’m going to take a step back, because that kid is going to spill his slushie all over – yup, there it goes. I know which ride I want to go on. I’ve thought about it all week. I’m going to have an awesome time on that ride. I’m going there first. Wait, there are other rides? I didn’t even notice! I was busy fixating on getting to the head of the line! Ha, Marsha better not go on that thing, she’ll hurl—yep, there she goes.

    Introverted Thinking (Ti) is busy analyzing how the rides work and what makes the most sense. If I go this way, the path winds around past what I want to see, and by the time we’re to meet up, I’ll have been all the way around the park. I won’t have to walk back, or rush from one side of the park to the other. Wait, why are they all walking in the opposite direction? Don’t they know this is the logical way to do it? If you go that way, you’ll engage in needless walking and won’t be able to get through the line in front of the House of Mirrors.

    Introverted Feeling (Fi) decides which direction to go based on what is important to them. I’m going on this ride. No, it’s okay, I can go by myself. I don’t need you to come along unless you want to. I’m serious. I’m not afraid to do it alone. I’m not feeling the burgers, either. You all go ahead. I’m going to dash over to that taco stand. Nope, not going on that ride. You can beg all you want, I won’t do it. I’m scared of heights. Not a chance, bud. Drop it.
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    Unknown Personality

    Thanks, that was helpful! I feel quite identified with auxiliary Fe and tertiary Ti. Then inferior Ne seems like a better match than inferior Se, same with dominant Si over Ni. When I visualize my future I get very anxious because I don't know how it'll be, I have a vague idea but still...

    I guess I break the mold of the stereotypical ISFJ. I like trying out new things, learning about other cultures, I prefer reading about other worlds (fantasy, dystopias...) or eras (I like knowning how people in the past lived, what they did, what their environemnts where like, what they wore...). I don't really value traditions just because "it's always been like that", in fact I often question things that have been established, like the "conventional" way of life (getting married, buying a house, having kids....), sexuality, having a vocation in life...

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    Thanks, that was helpful! I feel quite identified with auxiliary Fe and tertiary Ti. Then inferior Ne seems like a better match than inferior Se, same with dominant Si over Ni. When I visualize my future I get very anxious because I don't know how it'll be, I have a vague idea but still...

    I guess I break the mold of the stereotypical ISFJ. I like trying out new things, learning about other cultures, I prefer reading about other worlds (fantasy, dystopias...) or eras (I like knowning how people in the past lived, what they did, what their environemnts where like, what they wore...). I don't really value traditions just because "it's always been like that", in fact I often question things that have been established, like the "conventional" way of life (getting married, buying a house, having kids....), sexuality, having a vocation in life...
    It sounds function wise, you identify with Si, Fe, Ti, and Ne? Ahh so it's the stereotypes that are making you question your type?

    I know you identify so far as ISFJ but I found this great article that helps erase stereotypes about ISTJ's (Both ISFJ's and ISTJ's use dominant Si and inferior Ne). Maybe it will help you:

    Erasing ISTJ Stereotypes - Funky MBTI in Fiction

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    Unknown Personality

    Yes, function wise it seems like the best match for me. But if I'm indeed an ISFJ, I'm not the stereotypical one who is very traditional and constantly worried about others and "serving" them.

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    How each dominant function writes a novel:

    Te: Write an outline with an estimated word count and charted plot points / progression for each subsequent chapter.

    Ti: Invent a logically consistent world that makes sense from a narrative point of view, and perhaps go some way in inventing languages along the way.

    Fe: Decide what emotional impact you want your novel to have, and find an appropriate way to express difficult themes without alienating the reader.

    Fi: Find a theme that resonates with a deep personal belief or experience, and write it mostly for yourself.

    Ne: Start writing. After a few chapters you wind up with 45 main characters and subsequent plot lines all running simultaneously.

    Ni: Spend months and even years visualizing every element of your highly conceptual story, then sit down and write it without much revision.

    Se: Emphasis is on impacting sentences and intense experiences for the reader. Sensory details are devoid of emotional sentiment.

    Si: Focuses on those archetypes and themes that are significant to you, often supplemented by a vast library of reading experience. Natural sense of plot structure.

    Combine these and you can see how writers tap into different functions. Something I have noticed is that N writers often incorporate description to try and ground their story or make it seem more real, whereas sensor writers usually tap into their intuitive functions to branch out into unexplored territories. Feelers might dip into thinking to structure their worlds with logic and/or explore different principles, just as thinkers might explore emotions through their writing.

    Often our lower functions are how we “play” so we access them during writing. :)

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