Questioning INFJ, not to mention everything else...

hi

I'm new here, I hung out at infp.globalchatter for a while a couple years back, but left because I got sick of the sadness and cat pictures, urgh.

Anyway, I thought I was INFP, until a net-friend (who introduced me to mbti) was convinced I was INFJ... Reading the discription at similarminds annoys me, because It sounds true... Thing Is, I sometimes think I'm INTJ.



Anyway of finding out for sure? I just think that, as I value logic. I can't stand people when they argue with there emotions, especially women, oh dear, don't get me started with women.

If you get annoyed at women because they're emotional, T.

If you have been questioning your type this long, then you are a P.


Let's assume all the rest of your letters are right. That makes you INTP.




By the way, I found your post kind of insulting. I almost wrote something very insulting back. Maybe you should think about how you come off before you open your mouth.

Originally Posted by alice144

By the way, I found your post kind of insulting. I almost wrote something very insulting back. Maybe you should think about how you come off before you open your mouth.

But I typed it? :P

I'd agree that his post was insulting... if it wasn't for my mother who would have emotional melt-downs and scream at me every other week for trivial crap. XD

As for your questions, Oscar... You can value logic and still be an INFJ.

It's hard to explain, but we INFJs have a very strong values system. You may have decided that logic is necessary behind every conclusion, not because you are a T, but because that is what you feel to be right. The key word there is feel.

So don't ask yourself if you think in order to make decisions. That's a given. INFJs aren't irrational.

Rather, ask yourself. How often do you feel the ebbs and flows of your emotions? How enraged do you feel at social injustices? How empathetic are you when you see other people's pain? Have sad movies ever moved you to tears?

These are the indications of that F of yours.

Originally Posted by Btmangan

I'd agree that his post was insulting... if it wasn't for my mother who would have emotional melt-downs and scream at me every other week for trivial crap. XD

You say something like that and then go on to state that INFJs are not irrational?

You can't reason from the particular to the general based on the evidence of one single person. Not logically in any case. In your case I would surmise that you are making argument based on your emotions towards a particular person. :)

Originally Posted by Btmangan

Rather, ask yourself. How often do you feel the ebbs and flows of your emotions? How enraged do you feel at social injustices? How empathetic are you when you see other people's pain? Have sad movies ever moved you to tears?

These are the indications of that F of yours.

Yup agreed, This helps.

Why are we still on about the insulting bit, I was making a point that I couldn't stand irrationality, hence thinking I might be using extroverted thinking as my secondary, and threw in the fact women can be very irrational, which annoys me, as just an example

If you want my apology alice, here it is. I'm sorry that you find my post kind of insulting.

Originally Posted by OscarHollywood

hi

I'm new here, I hung out at infp.globalchatter for a while a couple years back, but left because I got sick of the sadness and cat pictures, urgh.

Anyway, I thought I was INFP, until a net-friend (who introduced me to mbti) was convinced I was INFJ... Reading the discription at similarminds annoys me, because It sounds true... Thing Is, I sometimes think I'm INTJ.

Anyway of finding out for sure? I just think that, as I value logic. I can't stand people when they argue with there emotions, especially women, oh dear, don't get me started with women.

Hi and welcome.

F and T are reasoning processes. Feeling decision-making is personal - you do what makes you feel good, or what will make others happy. Thinking decision-making is impersonal - you do what fits into a principle, or can be argued logically.

F and T are better suited to certain situations, and people can and do engage in both types of decision-making. But we have a tendency to prefer one over the other, and when a person is really strongly F or T they have a difficult time reasoning the other way.

Does that help you out a little?

Originally Posted by decided

Hi and welcome.

F and T are reasoning processes. Feeling decision-making is personal - you do what makes you feel good, or what will make others happy. Thinking decision-making is impersonal - you do what fits into a principle, or can be argued logically.

F and T are better suited to certain situations, and people can and do engage in both types of decision-making. But we have a tendency to prefer one over the other, and when a person is really strongly F or T they have a difficult time reasoning the other way.

Does that help you out a little?

Yes this helps... Is it possible to find out from somewhere, real time examples of T and F decision making?

F = Your taking people in your car somewhere, but its now full and one person is left out, Even though its breaking the law and making it a risk for everyone else, you have him squeeze in anyway because hes a friend.

T = You leave him out as its putting others at risk, breaking the law, and he can just catch another ride?

Would this be correct?

Originally Posted by OscarHollywood

Yes this helps... Is it possible to find out from somewhere, real time examples of T and F decision making?

F = Your taking people in your car somewhere, but its now full and one person is left out, Even though its breaking the law and making it a risk for everyone else, you have him squeeze in anyway because hes a friend.

T = You leave him out as its putting others at risk, breaking the law, and he can just catch another ride?

Would this be correct?

In everyday life people will make decisions using F or T type reasoning, and sometimes a combination of both. And the thing with T and F reasoning is that sometimes the same decision can be reached, but with very different thought processes.

So, using your example...

-- An F might take them because he's a friend, or he might not take him because they don't want to risk hurting him if there is an accident.

-- A T might take them because statistically accidents are really rare, or he might not take him because according to test results when people in that situation do have accidents, people usually die. (I have no idea if those things are true, they're just examples of impersonal reasoning.)

Originally Posted by OscarHollywood

Yes this helps... Is it possible to find out from somewhere, real time examples of T and F decision making?

F = Your taking people in your car somewhere, but its now full and one person is left out, Even though its breaking the law and making it a risk for everyone else, you have him squeeze in anyway because hes a friend.

T = You leave him out as its putting others at risk, breaking the law, and he can just catch another ride?

Would this be correct?

I see both of these examples as really F based...

however... i am a feeling type person but I try to translate all my F
into T process...

my dad is a T type and I hold him in the highest regard.
however... just because he is an amazing great individual doesn't mean all T types are...
thats one thing I am discovering...

however my opinion is subjective.
and any types can make good or bad decisions depending on an individuals definition of good and bad and what tha individual admires...

so it isn't about finding a way of thinking you admire really, it is more about understanding a deeper meaning of admiration for what someone wants to bring to this world...

we all have our own ways of getting there, but we all want to get there, and when we find another who wants to get to that same 'there' we do...
we have found someone to journey with...

I will admit though... it is nice when I can let down the thinking fiscade and just be my natural feely self.