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This is a discussion on Am I a feeler or thinker? within the What's my personality type? forums, part of the Personality Cafe category; Originally Posted by Narcotic Socionics :: Logic / Ethics Originally Posted by Narcotic To take a grossly simplistic approach, I ...

  1. #11
    Unknown Personality

    Quote Originally Posted by Narcotic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Narcotic View Post
    To take a grossly simplistic approach, I think the fact that you were given a huge table with points outlining strengths and weaknesses, doubts and so on of each type and read it and yet still asked for outside opinion would indicate ethics/feeling, as logic/organisation of information and noticing it was what you asked for help about, making it the more apparent lacking area.
    Yeah, I generally need a standard to compare myself to and criticize/analyze to get anything done.

  2. #12
    INFJ - The Protectors

    I'm not sure which posts of mine were part of this process or how they sparked stuff for you - I'm actually having a difficult time just sort of tracking the conversation here, like I can't quite grasp what it's actually about, can't quite bring it into focus in my comprehension. Most likely this is because

    1. There's something really blurry going on here (in what you're trying to do or how you're trying to figure it out)

    -or-

    2. You're coming from a perspective so far outside my experience that I lack reference points and so can't bring it into focus for myself.

    That said, here are the questions that come up for me reading so far:

    Quote Originally Posted by tangosthenes View Post
    I personally change my opinion a lot when it comes into contact with other people's
    Could you describe how and (if possible) why this happens?

    Quote Originally Posted by tangosthenes View Post
    Yeah, I generally need a standard to compare myself to and criticize/analyze to get anything done.
    1. What do you mean by a "standard to compare yourself to" - could you give some examples of such standards?

    2. Could you describe your process of having such a standard and comparing yourself and criticizing/analyzing to get something done? How does it work, what are the dynamics of this process?

  3. #13
    Unknown Personality

    (I'm a confusing person as far as I can tell, that's probably why you don't understand haha)
    This post:
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquarian View Post
    I actually completely agree with you here.



    My post was wildly unspecific in the verb, my apologies! But I don't mean accomodate. I meant an orientation to collective values. Still vague, but more below.



    Again, that isn't my view and again apologies for my lack of specificity.

    For me as an INFJ, I do actually have Fe-aux and it shows up quite clearly (and can clash with my Fi-dom INFP like whoa). The way Fe-aux works for me is threefold:

    1. I am extremely aware of collective value material around me. To be clear, I may or may not accommodate in any consistent way (see #2) but I will be tuned into this layer as a default mode of external interaction. If I enter a group, organization or institution, I'll be attending to the collective value system(s) in operation (collective culture). If I am in a relationship with someone, I will be paying attention to their value system and our collective values as a couple. I have also naturally gravitated toward ongoing attention to and analysis of the larger cultural system in which I live. This is an orientation of my attention and not "accommodation" in any simple way. However:

    2. Fe-aux is my first (initial) way of interacting and relating to others (the external world). The placement as in linear time is important. My initial default is to try to understand and fit into the basic values of a group in that process of understanding, and I also initially try to adjust and attune myself with the values of anyone with whom I'm in a close relationship.

    At this initial stage, I partly (never fully) internalize the external values. However, those values often end up clashing with aspects of my Ni perception, and then the phase of relatively extreme critical questioning begins. This critical analysis interestingly enough does happen via Ti (so despite my initial reaction to that accommodating/questioning thing in that link, if I look at it in terms of cognitive function interplay rather than "F or T type" it makes sense).

    Anyway, for me whether I am accommodating or critical of external values depends on where in a cycle I am. In the end, I often turn out to be one of the most critical people around when it comes to external value systems because in a way it feels like a matter of survival for me as Fe clashes with the more organic Ni information and landscape and I then take apart the Fe material that I initially partly internalized. But it's not Fi - for many many reasons, but in this context because if it was, I wouldn't have to go through this whole drawn out process to begin with (and being close with a Fi dom has shown me this in very clear terms).

    3. I am collective-oriented. It's important to me that if I do commit myself to a group or relationship or whatever, there are basic shared collective values that I can live with over time, particularly that I can live with while centering and moving in the field of my Ni perceptual landscape. This is almost unheard of in my experience, but I do keep trying!

    All of which to say ... what? Hmmm. I guess I would say:

    1. Looking at F alone, out of context from the other cognitive processes, isn't useful and in fact confuses things a lot. Which I think you were pointing out.

    2. I'm INFJ and clearly Fe-aux. But yeah, I don't accommodate to external values if you look at all of how I process information. And I suppose if someone came upon ONLY the external results at the tail end of my Ni-Fe-Ti critical questioning process, completely out of any context of my previous actions/approach or my analytical processes, if they didn't know about the initial partial internalization or underlying analysis or the way that Ni perception can clash with Fe material even though it's not values, and if there were external results to be seen (meaning, if I decided to speak the analysis to whoever was part of the group/collective etc) it could possibly look like Fi. But any further digging into how it came about would show the painstaking data-grounded Ti-tert analysis in relation to the larger organic Ni-dom field of perception given the initial Fe-aux orientation. But it's not actually Fi (a lesson I have learned in great abundance by being in a relationship with a Fi-dom and watching the Fi-dom/Fe-aux dynamic ... whoa.



    I have to say it again, I really do agree that using Fe-doms as the standard for "Fe types" does in fact miss the boat. I don't know if my process is typical for INFJs or not, but in my case at least, zooming in on the unfolding interplay of my cognitive processes provides a much clearer view of what's actually going on in how I process information.
    I came out of this post as very jealous. That's quite a detailed understanding of your inner workings, something I don't really have. The best thing I can do is say "At this moment, I feel like this is the most accurate to say about myself: blah blah" But I can't actually give a good overall picture of who I am.

    The nebulousness of my thinking is increasing as I get older and more apathetic to the situation: I find it harder to interact with "what people want to hear," as I explain below. I just get more and more confusing, to myself and others.

    As far as your questions,
    That said, here are the questions that come up for me reading so far:


    Originally Posted by tangosthenes
    I personally change my opinion a lot when it comes into contact with other people's



    Could you describe how and (if possible) why this happens?

    A: I start off with a blob of instinct. I see what that could be in terms of an answer, but I need to bring it into shape. So I use other people to sharpen my insights, by putting words to what I already know. This relates heavily to the next question.

    Originally Posted by tangosthenes
    Yeah, I generally need a standard to compare myself to and criticize/analyze to get anything done.



    1. What do you mean by a "standard to compare yourself to" - could you give some examples of such standards?

    To explain something(in a serious manner, not just casually), I need a "thing" to work off of(notice how vague this is, this is how my explanation initially wants to come out of my head). I need a workbench to whittle my thoughts down on. So I use this "standard", whether its a rule or a person agreeing or disagreeing with me, in order to express what I see as something universal. It has to be fitted into a "mode" though, or the person will not understand. I generally take shape of the mode by reacting to my intuitive(not mbti intuitive, just the usual definition) grasp of how someone thinks. I guess "I try to mind meld" is a quick way of saying it. I know what I want to say, but I can't say it unless it is slowly teased out into the perfect combination of accuracy and the recognition of its accuracy by the other person. So, unless both of those two things come together, I consider the problem an opinion still in progress.

    Tl;dr: I need validation for my opinions or I don't know they are right. I use a mental model of how I think people want to hear things to express myself after a gruesome internal process.

    2. Could you describe your
    process of having such a standard and comparing yourself and criticizing/analyzing to get something done? How does it work, what are the dynamics of this process?

    In addition to what I wrote above:
    I approach a problem, I have an answer in my head almost instantly. I need to discuss it with someone to be assured of its accuracy.

    They don't have to say right out that I'm right or wrong. For example, if the analysis they do seems to lend heavily to my conclusion, but they say it goes to theirs, I have an enormously hard time trying to explain to them my side of things. It's like one of our brains has gone faulty.

  4. #14
    INFJ - The Protectors

    First and foremost, @tangosthenes, you really sound like an INFJ to me. I had that sense initially, but was confused by the low Fe you mentioned in the tests. I thought maybe I was not understanding your word use, hence my clarification questions.

    But now, reading your answers here - yup, you really seem to me like INFJ. And everything in your cognitive process results except Fe seems to support that. So the mystery I see is WTF is up with your Fe results in the test. My guess is that it's a combination of the tendency to define Fe in terms of Fe-doms, plus how Fe can actually work in INFJs given Ni and Ti, plus whatever this is in you:

    I find it harder to interact with "what people want to hear," as I explain below. I just get more and more confusing, to myself and others.
    Either that or it's just that the tests sometimes just don't work well for various reasons related to design, wording etc.

    So despite the low Fe in your test results, I see the INFJ Ni-Fe-Ti dynamic pretty clearly in your answers here.



    Quote Originally Posted by tangosthenes View Post
    I came out of this post as very jealous. That's quite a detailed understanding of your inner workings, something I don't really have. The best thing I can do is say "At this moment, I feel like this is the most accurate to say about myself: blah blah" But I can't actually give a good overall picture of who I am.
    Okay, now I get what you were talking about with that. I'm a qualitative researcher by nature and training, and in the few years especially, I've had both need and opportunity to apply that part of myself to analysis of how I work and how the collective I'm part of works. The overall process itself started around 2001 when I was in the midst of a pretty difficult work struggle and decided to re-open elements of my perception I had partially suppressed before in order to survive. But I've had to get rid of a LOT of noise/static to even get to where I am now.

    I approach a problem, I have an answer in my head almost instantly. I need to discuss it with someone to be assured of its accuracy.

    They don't have to say right out that I'm right or wrong. For example, if the analysis they do seems to lend heavily to my conclusion, but they say it goes to theirs, I have an enormously hard time trying to explain to them my side of things.
    I hope it's okay if I ramble about this piece for a bit because it really gets me thinking about my own recent experiences.

    I feel like I'm having a lot of experiences similar to this lately. In fact, I recently had an experience in dialogue with @TreasureTower that felt to me very very much like this, and I notice it happens a fair amount with others. In my case, it's because I am quite deliberately backing off of Fe-Ti and opening into a much more Ni-Se mode in my life right now. In this process, I'm finally noticing how much energy it takes me to do that Fe-Ti process that allows me to, for example, translate my almost visual knowing that the shape of an argument is off (Ti-tert) into something I can communicate. And I'm increasingly choosing NOT to expend that energy for anything that isn't necessary at the core of my life.

    One of the most difficult aspects of this situation is when I say or write something that is "incorrectly used" - meaning, not understood and used in support of what I perceive as inaccuracy. @Teybo kind of missed the boat in a recent thread when he tried to briefly describe why I get frustrated when my words are used to support what I consider inaccurate conclusions. He mapped it to J/P dichotomy which is part of the framework he's into. On its face, this was was plausible enough. But the accurate truth is that this response in me has to do with where I am in my life with Ni-Se, and my related movement related to Fe-Ti and the energy drain. No matter what, Fe is still concerned enough with others/the group that I can't just ignore what the group does with my words, and Ti is always concerned enough with accuracy that it knows when my words are being used against what I consider accurate, and yet I don't have the energy to engage from Fe-Ti in a way that actually corrects for the inaccuracy.

    (and, if Teybo decides to try to argue with me about my description of my own process and experience as related to whatever his theory is or my understanding is, you will see that even if I initially try to correct it - which I may or may not bother to do - I will in the end give up trying because it's not worth the energy at this point in my life. If, however, he tries to understand what it is for me without trying to map it to theories that he advocates, I will be more willing to provide descriptions. But asking questions merely to prove his point and/or trying to shoehorn my words into his chosen theories will yield the kind of frustration and choice not to engage the energy drain that I'm talking about here. I mention this because it's happened several times in my interactions with him so there's some chance the mention/comment will yield a fresh example of what I'm talking about)



    So, tangosthenes, In your case, I wonder if there's something going on related to Fe-Ti and the energy drain that it can require. I mean, for me, this backing off of Fe-Ti, growing conscious awareness of how very much it can drain my energy even though I can be incredibly good at it when I choose to expend the energy, and getting more and more reluctant to engage that process unless necessary ... for me this is all a sort of Ni-driven deliberate process of - I don't know change or development or survival at this stage of my life or something.

    But if I understand correctly, you're not making that kind of deliberate choices right now. But it also seems that you're currently drawn to the kind of knowledge of inner workings that I display in my posts that you wrote.

    I came out of this post as very jealous. That's quite a detailed understanding of your inner workings, something I don't really have. The best thing I can do is say "At this moment, I feel like this is the most accurate to say about myself: blah blah" But I can't actually give a good overall picture of who I am.
    The nebulousness of my thinking is increasing as I get older and more apathetic to the situation: I find it harder to interact with "what people want to hear," as I explain below. I just get more and more confusing, to myself and others.
    I guess "I try to mind meld" is a quick way of saying it. I know what I want to say, but I can't say it unless it is slowly teased out into the perfect combination of accuracy and the recognition of its accuracy by the other person. So, unless both of those two things come together, I consider the problem an opinion still in progress.
    I approach a problem, I have an answer in my head almost instantly. I need to discuss it with someone to be assured of its accuracy.
    All of these things combined set up a difficult challenge if you're interested in developing a more detailed understanding of your own inner workings. Assuming you are INFJ, most other people really won't be able to help you gain accuracy because, as you've experienced, they don't freaking understand you. Trying to express yourself in external terms often means trying to map your inner workings to perspectives and frameworks that sort of fit but are just off enough to distort accuracy and understanding.

    And as I write, I realize that this is a large part of why I have found the cognitive function conceptual model so useful in my own process. For me, the whole Ni-Fe-Ti-Se thing has given me a language I can use to think about my inner workings in a language with which I can communicate externally. I know that it's not the same as my inner workings. But oddly enough for me it's close enough that it doesn't distort accuracy.

    (woo hoo I'm having a clarity moment here)

    And (in typical INFJ style), I'll close by saying that I hope this whole long comment makes at least some sense given what you're thinking about, and that it's useful for you in some way.
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  5. #15
    Unknown Personality

    Quote Originally Posted by Aquarian View Post
    First and foremost, @tangosthenes, you really sound like an INFJ to me. I had that sense initially, but was confused by the low Fe you mentioned in the tests. I thought maybe I was not understanding your word use, hence my clarification questions.

    But now, reading your answers here - yup, you really seem to me like INFJ. And everything in your cognitive process results except Fe seems to support that. So the mystery I see is WTF is up with your Fe results in the test. My guess is that it's a combination of the tendency to define Fe in terms of Fe-doms, plus how Fe can actually work in INFJs given Ni and Ti, plus whatever this is in you:



    Either that or it's just that the tests sometimes just don't work well for various reasons related to design, wording etc.

    So despite the low Fe in your test results, I see the INFJ Ni-Fe-Ti dynamic pretty clearly in your answers here.





    Okay, now I get what you were talking about with that. I'm a qualitative researcher by nature and training, and in the few years especially, I've had both need and opportunity to apply that part of myself to analysis of how I work and how the collective I'm part of works. The overall process itself started around 2001 when I was in the midst of a pretty difficult work struggle and decided to re-open elements of my perception I had partially suppressed before in order to survive. But I've had to get rid of a LOT of noise/static to even get to where I am now.



    I hope it's okay if I ramble about this piece for a bit because it really gets me thinking about my own recent experiences.

    I feel like I'm having a lot of experiences similar to this lately. In fact, I recently had an experience in dialogue with @TreasureTower that felt to me very very much like this, and I notice it happens a fair amount with others. In my case, it's because I am quite deliberately backing off of Fe-Ti and opening into a much more Ni-Se mode in my life right now. In this process, I'm finally noticing how much energy it takes me to do that Fe-Ti process that allows me to, for example, translate my almost visual knowing that the shape of an argument is off (Ti-tert) into something I can communicate. And I'm increasingly choosing NOT to expend that energy for anything that isn't necessary at the core of my life.

    One of the most difficult aspects of this situation is when I say or write something that is "incorrectly used" - meaning, not understood and used in support of what I perceive as inaccuracy. @Teybo kind of missed the boat in a recent thread when he tried to briefly describe why I get frustrated when my words are used to support what I consider inaccurate conclusions. He mapped it to J/P dichotomy which is part of the framework he's into. On its face, this was was plausible enough. But the accurate truth is that this response in me has to do with where I am in my life with Ni-Se, and my related movement related to Fe-Ti and the energy drain. No matter what, Fe is still concerned enough with others/the group that I can't just ignore what the group does with my words, and Ti is always concerned enough with accuracy that it knows when my words are being used against what I consider accurate, and yet I don't have the energy to engage from Fe-Ti in a way that actually corrects for the inaccuracy.

    (and, if Teybo decides to try to argue with me about my description of my own process and experience as related to whatever his theory is or my understanding is, you will see that even if I initially try to correct it - which I may or may not bother to do - I will in the end give up trying because it's not worth the energy at this point in my life. If, however, he tries to understand what it is for me without trying to map it to theories that he advocates, I will be more willing to provide descriptions. But asking questions merely to prove his point and/or trying to shoehorn my words into his chosen theories will yield the kind of frustration and choice not to engage the energy drain that I'm talking about here. I mention this because it's happened several times in my interactions with him so there's some chance the mention/comment will yield a fresh example of what I'm talking about)



    So, tangosthenes, In your case, I wonder if there's something going on related to Fe-Ti and the energy drain that it can require. I mean, for me, this backing off of Fe-Ti, growing conscious awareness of how very much it can drain my energy even though I can be incredibly good at it when I choose to expend the energy, and getting more and more reluctant to engage that process unless necessary ... for me this is all a sort of Ni-driven deliberate process of - I don't know change or development or survival at this stage of my life or something.

    But if I understand correctly, you're not making that kind of deliberate choices right now. But it also seems that you're currently drawn to the kind of knowledge of inner workings that I display in my posts that you wrote.









    All of these things combined set up a difficult challenge if you're interested in developing a more detailed understanding of your own inner workings. Assuming you are INFJ, most other people really won't be able to help you gain accuracy because, as you've experienced, they don't freaking understand you. Trying to express yourself in external terms often means trying to map your inner workings to perspectives and frameworks that sort of fit but are just off enough to distort accuracy and understanding.

    And as I write, I realize that this is a large part of why I have found the cognitive function conceptual model so useful in my own process. For me, the whole Ni-Fe-Ti-Se thing has given me a language I can use to think about my inner workings in a language with which I can communicate externally. I know that it's not the same as my inner workings. But oddly enough for me it's close enough that it doesn't distort accuracy.

    (woo hoo I'm having a clarity moment here)

    And (in typical INFJ style), I'll close by saying that I hope this whole long comment makes at least some sense given what you're thinking about, and that it's useful for you in some way.
    With Fe... I notice it every once in a while. For some reason I don't want to own up to it, though. It makes me emotional and that has led to a lot of embarrassing situations I do not wish to repeat:
    Quote Originally Posted by Me
    1. What is your "soft spot" (the area that makes you upset if people mess with)?
    Blatantly disregarding what I see as my good will. If someone can't respect something I'm doing, I'm inclined not to deal with them at all. It's not like I stick my neck out for it to be cut off. Anger as a reaction is fine, actually. Just don't hold onto your personal bullshit like it's your pet dog. If I am good enough to admit when I'm wrong, the least you can do is try to understand. This has come up mainly with every friend or acquaintance I've cut contact with.


    Your post was very helpful and gives me a lot to think about.
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  6. #16
    INFJ - The Protectors

    Quote Originally Posted by tangosthenes View Post
    With Fe... I notice it every once in a while. For some reason I don't want to own up to it, though. It makes me emotional and that has led to a lot of embarrassing situations I do not wish to repeat:

    Originally Posted by Me 1. What is your "soft spot" (the area that makes you upset if people mess with)?
    Blatantly disregarding what I see as my good will. If someone can't respect something I'm doing, I'm inclined not to deal with them at all. It's not like I stick my neck out for it to be cut off. Anger as a reaction is fine, actually. Just don't hold onto your personal bullshit like it's your pet dog. If I am good enough to admit when I'm wrong, the least you can do is try to understand. This has come up mainly with every friend or acquaintance I've cut contact with.
    ^ ^ *nods* I see a substantial amount of INFJ-like Fe-aux in this piece of data.

    Your post was very helpful and gives me a lot to think about.
    I'm very glad to hear it.

  7. #17
    Unknown Personality

    @tangosthenes

    Am I a feeler or thinker?
    I think you're a Finker. Or a Theeler.

  8. #18
    Unknown Personality

    Quote Originally Posted by Revenant View Post
    @tangosthenes



    I think you're a Finker. Or a Theeler.
    Touchy-theeley.
    Finktronics.
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  9. #19
    INFJ - The Protectors

    Quote Originally Posted by Aquarian View Post
    I feel like I'm having a lot of experiences similar to this lately. In fact, I recently had an experience in dialogue with @TreasureTower that felt to me very very much like this, and I notice it happens a fair amount with others. In my case, it's because I am quite deliberately backing off of Fe-Ti and opening into a much more Ni-Se mode in my life right now. In this process, I'm finally noticing how much energy it takes me to do that Fe-Ti process that allows me to, for example, translate my almost visual knowing that the shape of an argument is off (Ti-tert) into something I can communicate. And I'm increasingly choosing NOT to expend that energy for anything that isn't necessary at the core of my life.
    I can totally relate to that! I find that no matter how well, I understand something; that does not necessarily compute that I will be able to explain it to others in any way that may make sense to them - even if it makes total sense to me.

    All of these things combined set up a difficult challenge if you're interested in developing a more detailed understanding of your own inner workings. Assuming you are INFJ, most other people really won't be able to help you gain accuracy because, as you've experienced, they don't freaking understand you. Trying to express yourself in external terms often means trying to map your inner workings to perspectives and frameworks that sort of fit but are just off enough to distort accuracy and understanding.
    This! Since figuring one's type involves deep and complex cognitive processes; it often can't be accessed by logic and objective facts, alone. @tangosthenes, I sincerely hope that this thread has helped you because the thread that I created (See @Aquarian's post where she mentions me.), left me with way more questions than answers. One of the main difficulties that I encounter when I take either MBTI/Cognitive functions (or Socionics) tests; is that I am frequently unsure how to answer the questions. I will say that on two of the most comprehensive tests that I have taken: one was a YouTube test that combined MBTI with Keirsey type indicator and the other was, Sensing vs. Intuition test. The reason that I considered these tests to be the most accurate was that they asked you contextual based questions; which are much easier for me to respond accurately to. It's much easier for me to predict what I am likely to do in various situations, as opposed to vague generalities. Those two test are much less open to bias than the typical tests - not that one can't distort the truth but it would have to be blatant to the test taker, since it would be situationally based. On both of these tests, I had a clear preference for INFJ.

    Another thing that I found really useful was this article from Personality Junkie on INFJ and especially this article, Judging and perceiving: IJs vs. IPs; which helped me understand my J/P confusion. Not everyone may agree with this, but to Is and especially iNs who are experiencing the 50/50 T/F split who don't feel that either INFP or INTP is a good fit ought to consider the possibility of being an INXJ.

    I have noticed two very distinct types who seem to have this particular problem: People who have low Fe and strong T(e)/Fi. Those types tend to vacillate between INTP, INFP and INTJ, and others, who have moderate to high T(i)/Fe; who tend to alternate between INFP, INTP and INFJ. I have observed that the former group rarely even consider INFJ as a possibility, where as the latter; similarly, seem to quickly weed out INTJ as an option.
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  10. #20
    Unknown Personality

    Quote Originally Posted by TreasureTower View Post
    I can totally relate to that! I find that no matter how well, I understand something; that does not necessarily compute that I will be able to explain it to others in any way that may make sense to them - even if it makes total sense to me.



    This! Since figuring one's type involves deep and complex cognitive processes; it often can't be accessed by logic and objective facts, alone. @tangosthenes, I sincerely hope that this thread has helped you because the thread that I created (See @Aquarian's post where she mentions me.), left me with way more questions than answers. One of the main difficulties that I encounter when I take either MBTI/Cognitive functions (or Socionics) tests; is that I am frequently unsure how to answer the questions. I will say that on two of the most comprehensive tests that I have taken: one was a YouTube test that combined MBTI with Keirsey type indicator and the other was, Sensing vs. Intuition test. The reason that I considered these tests to be the most accurate was that they asked you contextual based questions; which are much easier for me to respond accurately to. It's much easier for me to predict what I am likely to do in various situations, as opposed to vague generalities. Those two test are much less open to bias than the typical tests - not that one can't distort the truth but it would have to be blatant to the test taker, since it would be situationally based. On both of these tests, I had a clear preference for INFJ.

    Another thing that I found really useful was this article from Personality Junkie on INFJ and especially this article, Judging and perceiving: IJs vs. IPs; which helped me understand my J/P confusion. Not everyone may agree with this, but to Is and especially iNs who are experiencing the 50/50 T/F split who don't feel that either INFP or INTP is a good fit ought to consider the possibility of being an INXJ.

    I have noticed two very distinct types who seem to have this particular problem: People who have low Fe and strong T(e)/Fi. Those types tend to vacillate between INTP, INFP and INTJ, and others, who have moderate to high T(i)/Fe; who tend to alternate between INFP, INTP and INFJ. I have observed that the former group rarely even consider INFJ as a possibility, where as the latter; similarly, seem to quickly weed out INTJ as an option.
    Well, really, the type in the INxx's I relate to the least is INFP, the others... I don't know.

    And I think the processes can be found with logic... but they are not the surface-level logic that many people like to adhere to.
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