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This is a discussion on 9s and Obscurity within the Type 9 Forum - The Peacemaker forums, part of the Body Triad - Types 8,9,1 category; I'm Obscure I feel most authentic when I am quietly on the sidelines. Whenever I do something that gets me ...

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    Type 9

    9s and Obscurity

    I'm Obscure

    I feel most authentic when I am quietly on the sidelines. Whenever I do something that gets me a lot of attention, I feel excited, but fake.

    Not Just Introversion

    I don't think it's just about being an introvert. I am that way even on here, where introverts abound, and many of them open up.

    Type 9s and lower post counts

    I have noticed that a lot of 9s have lower posts per day than a lot of other types.

    This makes me wonder if being comfortable with obscurity is at all related to being type 9.

    Feedback either way, please.

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    I liked your observation about Enneagram 9 posting frequency. That is all I have to say. I thought it was keen and something I've never thought of or noticed.
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    For me, attention does make me fake... or rather I don't act natural, even if my message is genuine. My post count is pretty low considering I am on PC nearly every day. I open up to an extent when asked the right questions, other than that I try to keep things to myself. I would also add that I don't start many threads. This could be just me though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    I'm Obscure

    I feel most authentic when I am quietly on the sidelines. Whenever I do something that gets me a lot of attention, I feel excited, but fake.

    Not Just Introversion

    I don't think it's just about being an introvert. I am that way even on here, where introverts abound, and many of them open up.

    Type 9s and lower post counts

    I have noticed that a lot of 9s have lower posts per day than a lot of other types.

    This makes me wonder if being comfortable with obscurity is at all related to being type 9.

    Feedback either way, please.

    I find it repulsive to receive attention from those who idealize me. I want to be loved for who I am, not an idea or fantasy of me. My tendency towards obscurity lies in the frustration I feel when people are too thick headed to see me for who I am. But I exacerbate this problem when I remain obscure because as long as I hide myself, it is impossible to learn the truth of me. I recently began to realize this (within the past six months) and started letting go of the desire to hide. Two months ago, seemingly out of nowhere, a very public spotlight shined down on me. I had to fight the fear and desire to run from it. It was an intense struggle but I stepped up and let myself shine. In the end, the attention I received was a mix of truth and falsehood. I found this far better than the lie that I live when I refuse to let people to see me for who I am. I feel contented knowing that while I cannot move everyone, there are people who will be moved if I just give them a chance.
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    Obscurity for me presents itself mostly in debates when I feel like people are just going to fling ape shit all around, so I just observe. But if I feel like something absolutely needs to be said, that nobody is saying, that is when I step in and input my opinion. Which is why in threads that have high debate potential, I state my opinion and position in one post, and do not bother to reply again. Because I feel like stating my opinion once is enough, and I do not need to constantly reiterate it over and over and just phrase it differently. The only time I will ever interfere in something, is when I feel like people are missing the point or are skewing the argument with improper definitions of words and/or ideas.
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    Type 9w1


    I think introversion does play some role in this because as an extrovert, I can't relate entirely. For example, an introverted 9 might refrain from posting so as not to make waves. I, on the other hand, might post in areas where there are already waves in an attempt to calm them. (Or if I'm in the right kind of mood, I might make waves for the hell of it. But we won't get into that ) It's a matter of passivity vs. activity.
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    Type 9


    I'm a 9 and I have the second highest amount of posts on the forum.
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    Type 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Rourk View Post
    I liked your observation about Enneagram 9 posting frequency. That is all I have to say. I thought it was keen and something I've never thought of or noticed.
    Quote Originally Posted by mcgooglian View Post
    I'm a 9 and I have the second highest amount of posts on the forum.
    My observation about posting frequency was based on just a few people. I haven't made a proper and full comparison of all the numbers yet. My theory put forth in th OP certainly isn't gospel truth. It's more a hunch I felt like pursuing. We seem to have a mixed bag.

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    Type 9


    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    My observation about posting frequency was based on just a few people. I haven't made a proper and full comparison of all the numbers yet. My theory put forth in th OP certainly isn't gospel truth. It's more a hunch I felt like pursuing. We seem to have a mixed bag.
    I think part of it may have to do with 9s moving towards 3s when they're "healthy" and they become more energetic and working towards what they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harley
    Obscurity for me presents itself mostly in debates when I feel like people are just going to fling ape shit all around, so I just observe. But if I feel like something absolutely needs to be said, that nobody is saying, that is when I step in and input my opinion. Which is why in threads that have high debate potential, I state my opinion and position in one post, and do not bother to reply again.
    ...
    The only time I will ever interfere in something, is when I feel like people are missing the point or are skewing the argument with improper definitions of words and/or ideas.
    I rarely post neither. I was actually not going to post in this thread either but then I got a grip on myself
    The thing is; wording my responses right (especially in written form) is often excruciatingly slow. Also, I like to think a lot. Not that many discussions seem very new any more... I feel I run the risk of coming across as an asshole know-it-all - that would also make people reluctant to share their own interesting view, fledgling as they may be <<--- see? asshole

    Can be difficult to have a good discussion on a forum. The pace of exchange is slow, and the amount of cues and clues are few. It's hard to know what the other persons are about. And to make oneself understood.

    In real life talking is inherently interesting and rewarding.

    Obscurity goes far beyond passivity and introversion though, right?
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