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Type 9 Tritypes

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
So, I was searching around for tritype descriptions, and I found these, and I thought I'd share it with you all. I found a description for each tritype listed in @MBTI Enthusiast's tritype thread. If I find anymore blurbs, I'll add them to the thread. If you find more blurbs, you add them to the thread.

259

If you are a 259, you are caring, knowledgeable and accepting. You want to be helpful, wise and peaceful. You have a very shy, gentle and reserved nature that focuses on what is harmonious. You need companionship and avoid loneliness by focusing on the needs and concerns of others.

Your life mission is to find the information needed to help others manage their difficulties. A true problem-solver, you are happiest when you are able to be in the role of a good Samaritan and help others.

You can be so focused on the helpful information you have collected that you can be too passive and miss opportunities that would allow true presence.
269, 692, 926 - The Good Samaritan: You like people and want to find ways to engage with them. Your sense of pride comes from getting along with others and being of assistance. You are known for your easygoing and friendly disposition. Your life mission is to identify what is problematic and needed, then find peaceful solutions for those concerned. A true trouble-shooter, you are happiest when you can help others in conflict bridge their differences. Your blind spot is that you can be so focused on being a peacemaker, tending to the needs of otehrs and getting along with them that you can fail to voice your own truth and act in a timely manner. You are overly identified with being a 'nice' person. Your growing edge is to recognize that being nice does not always create peace and that being passive does not mean that you are nice. True charity comes from listening to your heart and acting in accordance with what is needed without strings attached even if it causes conflict.
279

As a nine, I hate conflict. It's unbearbale when someone gives me the silent treatment, is angry or withdraws. Especially if I had a loving friendship before and when it hugely matters to me. I really like to bring things in the open and get things resolved. Talk things through. See where it went wrong. I do this without criticism. Though when somebody has hurt me and things have bottled up for a long time I can be very critical, precise and to the point. That's before a conversation to get things resolved where I couldn't control my outburst. Because it unsettles me and makes me sad. Then I can move forward again. When I try to discuss the situation I keep it light. Do not want to feel pain. I want things to be on the same level and harmonious as before and we do not need to delve deep, no need to dwell on the negatives. And let's forget about it. I will acknowledge my errors and empathise, even when I sometimes know I do this more then I should. I think the above is my 7 tritype. I think 4 is not the other tritype as I do not feel envious. It's not a passion or drive so to speak. Any input would be appreciated, thanks.

Have you ever taken the enneacards test on enneagram.net? It will help you identify your heart center, or at least give you somewhere to start.

From what you've described above I would guess you had 2 in the heart center, with two positive outlook types (2 and 7) and the 9 there is a need to keep things positive, a driving need almost or else it is unbearable. The criticality and bottling up phenomena could be due to the 9 in charge, and the 1 wing, as well as the social subtype who all are prone to a sort of indignant, critical anger.

Here's what Katherine wrote:

If you are a 279, you are caring, innovative and accepting. You want to be helpful, upbeat and peaceful. You are very kind and tend to see the best in others, focusing on easy and comfortable ways of relating. You hate conflict and/or strife and use your sense of humor to smooth out difficulties.

Your life mission is to create and promote smooth and harmonic ways to handle conflict. A true peacemaker, you are happiest when you can ease tension and help others get along with one another.

You can be so identified with keeping life free of conflict and negativity that you may turn a blind eye to conflicts that need to be managed as opportunities for change.
359, 593, 935 - The Thinker: Intellectual and clever, you find amenable and pleasant ways to manage difficult situations and relationships. Often shy, you are slow to trust others and need time to more fully reveal yourself. Your life mission is to use your ability to unite opposing points of view, find compromise, and create workable solutions. A true advocate, you are happiest when you can use your skills to be helpful and judicial. Your blind spot is that you can be so reserved that your true nature remains hidden and unexpressed which can cause you to appear aloof and indifferent. To feel in control, you may use withholding as punishment or as a means of control. Your growing edge is to recognize that your need ot pull away and be a spectator before engaging denies you the opportunity to more fully be. True wisdom comes from following your higher guidance, revealing yourself to others and fully participating in life.
369

She said this is the type most likely to be able to be the chameleon and will be able to adjust themselves according to whomever they are around. Having the 3 relating types and the 3 primary types they can have the most difficulty pinpointing not only their tritype but their dominant strategy. She said they will almost always think they are 3s, because they will value success and will be inclined to adjust to fit a given situation. She said they need to stay engaged and have harmony to feel happy which is what causes the constant adjustment.

They are most likely to fit into the cultural millieu of what is expected of them but that their life mission is to bring harmony and she calls this the true mediator archetype. She said they can be so focused on fitting in and belonging that they lose themeselves and forget to speak their personal truths for fear of not relating to others.
379, 739, 937 - The Ambassador: You like people and are outgoing, even if you are a bit shy. You are easygoing and seek comfort but strive for success and a feeling of personal importance. You are identified with what you do and achieve, but are soft, gentle, and kind. Your life mission is to find compassionate and effective ways to create change and bridge differences. A true ambassador of good will, you are happiest when you can help others become harmonious, build rapport, and develop their potential. Your blind spot is that you can be so focused on what is positive that you can miss the wisdom that comes from experiencing and understanding negative emotions and end up creating conflict by avoiding it. Your growing edge is to recognize that your need ot keep the peace at all costs and be what others want you to be to feel successful keeps you from knowing yourself. True self-awareness comes from listening to your higher self and being fully present in the moment.
459

If you are 459 is described as being intuitive, knowledgeable, an accepting. You want to be original, wise and peaceful. Highly self aware and reflective, you are very shy, reserved and self conscious. You need regular quiet time to reflect on your thoughts and emotions. Easily flooded with emotion, it is difficult for you to voice your feelings and ideas to others.

Your life mission is to delve deeply into the mysteries of life and share your insight with others. A true philosopher, you are happiest when you can write about your discoveries and discuss them with others. Making sense of your world is a never ending quest.

You can be so focused on your inner world that you can become inhibited and appear to be indifferent to others. Insecure, you become moody and expect others to initiate and come toward you.
469

If you are 469, you are intuitive, inquisitive and accepting. You want to be original, certain and peaceful. You are a very sensitive and can experience intense feelings of self-doubt and uncertainty. As a result you need multiple sources of confirmation. You want to be individualistic but can fear being separate from others.

Your life mission is to raise the questions pertaining to the mysteries of life and share your findings with others. A true seeker, you are happiest when you feel you can answer the question of who you are.

You can be so focused on your feelings, insecurities and doubts that you can feel paralyzed by the fear of making the wrong decision and of being misled or duped.
479

This is the sort of sprite or fairy like tritype. There is a need to remain positive while still searching for meaning. The blindspot is that there is an attraction to magical thinking and missed opportunities to speak their truth so they find themselves glossing over negative feeling states in favor of something more comfortable or positive. When 4 is in charge there's a tendency to not see all the ways in which depression or sadness is evaded through this magical thinking process.

the life mission is that this is the true healer archetype. They are often found doing bodywork or other healing practices as these are the 3 types that have a desire to transform. They like to inspire people toward happiness through expressing their creativity in a peaceful non-intrusive way.

She said this is the most lyrical type, a sort of ethereal archetype (so is the 459 but it is a more withdrawn ethereal quality, almost wispy and ghost like) whereas the energy here is lighter and more impish or I think when it's a male energy you get a strong trickster archetype. Playful yet meaningful. Very idealistic (although not quite as idealistic as the 471) but still concerned with maintaining positivity and feelings of being up. I think Regina Spektor is an example of this archetype with 4 in charge.

I'm actually put off by the idea of being in a "healing profession", though there's a strong likelihood that 7-4-9 is my tritype. I guess it's a reluctance to mix energies with society at large, or something of that nature. I wouldn't want to be in a profession where I constantly had to touch people. I'm not a cold person, I just wouldn't want a day filled with people-touching, if that makes sense.

EDIT: Oh, also, I would have to say "reluctant to show anything negative" is not such a likely descriptor for me.
Katherine said the 479 (749, 947) all took some kind of issue with the term "healer", even if they were in healing professions or were attracted to it. She was wondering what it was about that term that was off-putting, so what you've shared above is interesting (from a 7 perspective).

She said this is the gentle soul tritype that has a healing presence on others whether or not they intend to so when she says healer this is what she means as opposed to being vocationally attracted to the healing arts (although this is very common with this tritype).
 
#48 ·
Uhh... I double posted so I'll make the best of it.

I'm 369, the mediator, but I don't know if that name fits. I don't mediate much between other people. Mostly just mediate my personal relationships with others. I don't know if I am capable of seeing various points of view better than other types, either. Regardless, as separate entities, I am confident that I am 963.
 
#50 ·
I have a feeling that these symbols of the "mediator" and the "mentor" and the "peacemaker" are really more 9-2 things. My mom has 9 and 2 in her tritype, and she fits the more stereotypical image of a type 9.
 
#52 ·
guys guys GUYS ...

old thread, I know. but if anyone cares to respond that would be lovely :)

I'm a 9w8 sx/sp ... trying hard to figure out my tritype.

Heart Center -
I'd say I'm more interested in helping (2), as a general rule, then in success (3); in everyday life. But in terms of career I'd prefer to be a famous actor than to say an physician. Not sure if that is more 3 ish. I don't really want fame, I think acting would be more for the Art of it (4?).

Thinking Center -
I probably identify most with the need for variety and adventure found in the 7. I love learning and can be very well-read like a 5, too, (probably Ni?) but at the end of the day, I'd take fun over school. Always have. If that says anything. I identify with the angst of the 6 from time to time, but wanting to belong to specific groups, or feeling like my home is a safe haven (and such), have never really seemed to be 'me' at all. So I think I'm probably a there. My energy is so upward and random. Fun chaos. I struggle to maintain any semblance of a routine from day to day.

So, my question -
what does a 9-2-7 vs a 9-3-7
&
9-2-7 vs 9-7-2 ?

If it means anything fairly optimistic and positive (except for a few times when I had depression, but when I'm normal I pretty upbeat. Although I don't have a problem expressing irritation. or sympathizing with the horror of a given situation. I don't restrain much of my emotional world; I don't like faking in relationships. Also I have a fair ammount of escapism in me and I can usually find a reason to give up on something; although I've stuck with enough to accomplish a lot in life given my age. I love being creative. I'm not competitive. I've always been very spiritual. I smile A LOT. I have a lot of enthusiasm. I'm told I'm very nice.
 
#61 ·
I type as 935! Normally on tests I get 593 but I believe I'm definitely a 9, not 5, but it's possible I'm 953 (I'm not sure it matters much as long as you know which is your core, right?). I think the sentence "As long as I am competent I can maintain peace of mind" sums it up. As in, I'm relaxed and happy-go-lucky (9) as long as I feel competent (5+3) and only start getting stressed if I don't feel like I know enough to cope (5) or my 'successful image' is in danger (3). For example, I've known about my essay for weeks now but I only started it yesterday (it has to be in on Tuesday) and I've gone from doing nothing to spending the whole day devouring books and my main motivation is not looking like an idiot when I get my mark back, haha!
 
#66 ·
Thanks for the tritype postings! Nice and convenient, lol :p.


Oo, took the Enneagram quiz from the last page...


PSTypes Enneagram Test Results


The Distribution of Your Scores


  • Type One:

    24
  • Type Two:

    6
  • Type Three:

    18
  • Type Four:

    13
  • Type Five:

    48
  • Type Six:

    33
  • Type Seven:

    24
  • Type Eight:

    3
  • Type Nine:

    57
Your probable Enneagram Type

Your main type is 9.
Considering the wings you should be a 9w1.


*Shrug* I dunno. I've also gotten 9w1-5w6-3w2 the most (by a lot (hey, come on, test takes like 1 minute to fill out)) when I've taken the Perc Enneagram quiz, but from my reading I think I'm probably more 9w1-6w5-3w2.
Ah well, no big deal this stuff, right? :p
 
#74 ·
Embrace the new awesome you've discovered.

Yeah, that seems more in line with your current conclusions. It is always odd to me when a person has high scores in 2 types within one center. A lot of the 1s on the ISTJ forum also had very high 8 scores, and you show high 5 and 7 scores. I have yet to figure out what that could mean.

Hurray for the low 8ers! :tongue:
I have a very strong head fix and score high/relate to 7-5 as well, it could be that certain questions can be interpreted in different ways and therefore be applicable (ie 9s relating to 5), it could be that in certain motivations the types are similar (both withdrawn), it could simply be an indication of how strong a secondary fix is.
 
#79 · (Edited)
Taking the test @MBTI Enthusiast linked provides an interesting picture of my journey from looking at Type 1 to 3 to 9 and now perhaps 5. Thanks for the test!

PSTypes Enneagram Test Results

The Distribution of Your Scores


  • Type One: 19
  • Type Two: 5
  • Type Three: 37
  • Type Four: 25
  • Type Five: 51
  • Type Six: 35
  • Type Seven: 27
  • Type Eight: 16
  • Type Nine: 43
Your probable Enneagram Type

Your main type is 5.
Considering the wings you should be a 5w6.

 
#88 ·
I have spent weeks studying this so that I could confidently say I am a type 9-7-3.
I was really confused about 9-7-3 or 9-5-3 but after comparing the two I'm set on 9-7-3.

I really want someone to be happy for me for figuring out such a complex thing and to tell me how awesome it is to be a 9-7-3.
:proud:

But ... I'd understand if no-one thought it was cool... I'll just ... go be with the other 9-7-3's ... anyone over there?
 
#98 ·
Ah thank you. I'm still pretty new to the enneagram, especially the tritype theory. I know I'm a 2w1, that's pretty obvious for me. Figuring out my tritype is proving difficult though.

After looking up the 269 tritype that one seems to fit well but I still need to look into a few others. I got 295 from one of the online tests but it doesn't seem like me so onto more research!
Is there any specific info about the 952 tritype? Is anyone else a 952 or are the 592, 925, 529 and so one just lumped together and considered to be basically the same? I'm just learning about all this.
Yes, they're all lumped together.

So anyway, I have a theory. Or something. Maybe it's a theory. Anyway, I think tritypes are a great way to attempt to narrow down the likely types of someone you aren't particularly close to (or someone you ARE close to but for some reason misread...). Because you don't always know someone's true motivations for why they behave like they do, you may not be right about someone's core type but you DO have a pretty good chance of working out their tritype from observation (....like how for years I thought my best friend was a 9, but it turns out she's a 7. But her TRITYPE is definitely 794). (My mother in law is a 135 in some order. Most of the time I feel like she's a 1 but that could be just my 1-wing feeling JUDGED by her constantly, because she definitely shows qualities of the others as well). So tritype descriptions can get you closer to an understanding of someone else. They may not be all that important to know when it comes to ones PERSONAL growth though. I know I'm a core 9, I know I frequently take on 4ish qualities. Beyond that it's less clear which types I favor the most (seems to change frequently anyway), so maybe it doesn't matter. All the types exist in everyone to some degree
 
#99 ·
@rockinlibrarian Yayy I love new theories :D

Here are my thoughts:
1. allow me to speculate that the reason you're 4-ish is because you're INFP. (of all MBTI/enneagram interactions, the hardest thing to pick apart is the fact that type 4 also describes the NFs so well, and type 5 also describes the NTs so well... but obviously you can be a 4 and not an NF, or an NF and not a 4, and etc etc, but it causes much confusion I think...)

2. i agree that tritypes aren't important for your own personal development.... personally I feel that all your *unhealthiness* so to speak has its center of gravity in your main type-- your main type is where you get really really really unhealthy. As for the other types, you may have certain traits of them, and those traits may be slightly unhealthy, but since its not your main type, you're just not ever going to reach the same level of unheahlthy... you just dont have that potential in any type except your main type. so its not much to worry about.
AND, I also think that pretty much any action you're performing outside of your own type is sort of... automatically healthy. in a way. even though it might be unhealthy in and of itself. acting outside your type is always going to be good for you, because its helping you heal the singular HOLE of unhealthiness-potential that is square in the middle of your main type.
So, my point with that, is that even if you notice unhealthy aspects of other types in yourself, its not much to worry about.

3. So yeah, tritype could be something like this: I'm a 9, but I'm also sometimes 7-ish and sometimes 4-ish so I'm a 974. But mainly I'm a 9.
I could believe that, except for the fact that.... we truly do have all the types within us... And for me, when it comes to picking between 2, 3, and 4, for what should be my heart fix, it just seems like a silly and impossible task. I relate in important ways to EACH of those types, so how could I just pick ONE to be my heart fix? Additionally, 3 is my integration point, so that automatically makes me have a connection to it.... Could it also be my heart fix? how would I ever know? it just doesn't make sense to me.
Ditto with the head fix. I have strong connections to 6 and 7 (less so to 5 but there still some connection, even there), but 6 is also my disintegration point, so could it also be my head fix...? And again how would I know the difference???
the whole thing just seems like a mess.

But yes, I do in-theory agree with you and your overall theory... I just cant seem to apply it to myself... I keep coming back to the fact that we all have all nine types within us, (because I KNOW for a fact that I have some important link to ALL of the other types, I can feel that very clearly in me)... so why bother with tritype?
 
#101 ·
Here are my thoughts:
1. allow me to speculate that the reason you're 4-ish is because you're INFP. (of all MBTI/enneagram interactions, the hardest thing to pick apart is the fact that type 4 also describes the NFs so well, and type 5 also describes the NTs so well... but obviously you can be a 4 and not an NF, or an NF and not a 4, and etc etc, but it causes much confusion I think...)

2. i agree that tritypes aren't important for your own personal development.... personally I feel that all your *unhealthiness* so to speak has its center of gravity in your main type-- your main type is where you get really really really unhealthy. As for the other types, you may have certain traits of them, and those traits may be slightly unhealthy, but since its not your main type, you're just not ever going to reach the same level of unheahlthy... you just dont have that potential in any type except your main type. so its not much to worry about.
AND, I also think that pretty much any action you're performing outside of your own type is sort of... automatically healthy. in a way. even though it might be unhealthy in and of itself. acting outside your type is always going to be good for you, because its helping you heal the singular HOLE of unhealthiness-potential that is square in the middle of your main type.
So, my point with that, is that even if you notice unhealthy aspects of other types in yourself, its not much to worry about.

3. So yeah, tritype could be something like this: I'm a 9, but I'm also sometimes 7-ish and sometimes 4-ish so I'm a 974. But mainly I'm a 9.
I could believe that, except for the fact that.... we truly do have all the types within us... And for me, when it comes to picking between 2, 3, and 4, for what should be my heart fix, it just seems like a silly and impossible task. I relate in important ways to EACH of those types, so how could I just pick ONE to be my heart fix? Additionally, 3 is my integration point, so that automatically makes me have a connection to it.... Could it also be my heart fix? how would I ever know? it just doesn't make sense to me.
Ditto with the head fix. I have strong connections to 6 and 7 (less so to 5 but there still some connection, even there), but 6 is also my disintegration point, so could it also be my head fix...? And again how would I know the difference???
the whole thing just seems like a mess.

But yes, I do in-theory agree with you and your overall theory... I just cant seem to apply it to myself... I keep coming back to the fact that we all have all nine types within us, (because I KNOW for a fact that I have some important link to ALL of the other types, I can feel that very clearly in me)... so why bother with tritype?
If it doesn't add to your self awareness then it has no value.

Personally I used to dislike tritype theory, it didn't fit me until I discovered my heart fix, then it gelled so hard that I couldn't understand why I never considered it. I have unhealthy habits etc that stem from my heart fix that focusing only on my core would be ignored.

To your point 1: my heart fix is 4... I'm ENTP though, 4 isn't a common type for us. It's freaky to me how much of my inner self is covered off by point 4, as a shame fix I just didn't want to own it/show it. There's no way it's my core, I'm clearly 9 however there are times when it feels like a more important part of my make up.

I don't view it as I'm 9 but sometimes 7ish or 4ish (my actual tritype), it's more that type 9 has my core motivations covered off, 4 and 7 are secondary motivations, they can feel just as ingrained and automatic however when major stress hits the 9 issues are the bigger hurdles to overcome and where my focus should be in order to pull myself back up.

Meanwhile I don't gain any great self awareness from focusing on 2 or 3, or any other types that aren't my core, wing or tritype because they're just not relevant to me. I don't see myself as having all types in me as some core motivations are simply irrelevant or even contra to my inner workings.

I don't think anyone should start their learning with tritype, too many people seem to get caught up there, however it has the potential to give a more self understanding once you've worked on your core.
 
#110 ·
I've found that tritype can actually be really important because it affects one's relationship to Sloth and to the core type overall. For instance, I've tended to see 9 as an apathetic type but that can really vary a lot, and 7 fixed 9s may not identify with apathy at all, along with some more idealistic 9w1s. A 7 fix can throw me off because these 9s don't experience the type in quite the same way, as the 7 fix can be in conflict with the 9's natural tendencies, making for a type of 9 that fears having too much Sloth or apathy. They might see themselves as wanting to be happy but being held back by laziness or feeling that things aren't worth the effort.

And in the case of 6 fixed 9s, there may be less identification with calmness or being at peace, less identification with Positive Outlook. This can make for a 9 that is more focused on the unpleasant parts of reality, on problems and how to avoid or fix them.

Some 9s describe too easily going along with others, having a hard time asserting themselves, and some don't have this issue at all. Some 9s feel that they don't matter, that they would have a kind of guilt in asserting themselves, others would never think such a thing. Some 9s (particularly IxFPs) describe difficulty being productive and getting things done, and some others don't value productivity.

So there are really quite a lot of varieties of type 9, many nuances from tritype, instinctual variant, MBTI/Socionics type, or just individual differences. And I expect this can create typing difficulties because people may have one version of a type in their minds, which could be based on their actual experiences with others of this type, and so they might miss the possibility of still being that type because they aren't aware of the other varieties.
 
#111 ·
I've tested repeatedly as a 9-2-5, but there are a lot of days where I feel a lot more primarily '2' rather than '9'.

I still have many, many details to learn about how all of it works and relates before I form an opinion for others. :laughing:
 
#112 ·
964 issue: I've noticed something occasionally happens where others think I'm being self-doubting and negative and try to cheer me up when I actually didn't experience it that way and was just making a detached statement that didn't really bother me. Even when I really am upset, it often doesn't feel like I'm truly bothered, like it has really changed anything inside of me. So I'm often surprised by others' reactions that to me seem disproportionate to what I was expressing, as to me it wasn't a big deal, and this makes me feel like I've misrepresented myself somehow.
 
#113 ·
I have this problem too. My boyfriend, who's noticed it, called it the 'baby bird' response--I'll ask a question or make an observation with no emotional content, like 'I noticed X seemed confused by my question, did I make my expectations clear?' And people respond like I'm a fragile baby bird. 'Oh, it's ok! You did fine! He never pays attention! Please don't doubt yourself so much!" It annoys me--I'm asking for a simple answer, and obviously I have to ask you because I don't have access to information about how people understand me because I'm trapped in my own first person perspective. God forbid I actually ask for objective feedback and try to improve. I'd love to ask what it is about my voice or body language that makes people think I'm insecure, but that just triggers the same coddling.
 
#115 ·
My tritype is 9-3-6

The Mediator

369

She said this is the type most likely to be able to be the chameleon and will be able to adjust themselves according to whomever they are around. Having the 3 relating types and the 3 primary types they can have the most difficulty pinpointing not only their tritype but their dominant strategy. She said they will almost always think they are 3s, because they will value success and will be inclined to adjust to fit a given situation. She said they need to stay engaged and have harmony to feel happy which is what causes the constant adjustment.

They are most likely to fit into the cultural millieu of what is expected of them but that their life mission is to bring harmony and she calls this the true mediator archetype. She said they can be so focused on fitting in and belonging that they lose themeselves and forget to speak their personal truths for fear of not relating to others.