[Eylrid]

9s: How does your Enneatype effect your MBTI type? (Other Enneatypes can join in too, but I am most interested in 9s)



For me:
As an INFP, I am independent and and have some strong values. My nine (which I interpret as "go along to get along) is in control most of the time, making me either a follower or quietly independent. There are times when a strong enough value is violated and the defense of my values takes over. (Very high adrenaline moments for me.) At that point all "Go along to get along" is out the window. I become VERY stubborn in those situations. I am either a pushover, or an unmoving rock. There isn't much middle ground for me.

[Blueguardian]

To be honest I don't know my enneagram type for sure. I score differently most of the time. According to tests I've taken... I could be a 9,1,2,4,5,or 6. When I read them though 9 seems most likely for me.

I have many reasons why I go with the flow, by and large. Think of me as a small bolder in a raging river. I move along with the river, but at my own pace and form. I don't like arguing. Unless I find the point really worth my energies, I will either ignore you, or agree with you to shut you up. In a dispute I try to step into other peoples shoes and address both sides of the argument in a way that could be understood by my target (not always successful might I add). If a strong value, belief, rule is struck: that tumbling bolder will instantly convert to lead. I will stop dead in my tracks and ignore anything and everything in defense of what I believe in.

Advice if you encounter me while I am like this. If you want to tell me, or teach me something. You best come back later, and probably sugar coat the first dose of your argument... or you could just let me be. :)

[Functianalyst]

That has been a common question, but truthfully they do not correlate that well. I think that the closest correlation may be simple dichotomies. I have read that E9 = I_ _ P. The problem is dichotomies don't work. If you truly want to know your type, you must get have a good understanding of cognitive functions (Ti, Fi, Se, etc.) There is no real affect since MB is cognitive and enneagram is more emotional/spiritual.

[Eylrid]

That has been a common question, but truthfully they do not correlate that well. I think that the closest correlation may be simple dichotomies. I have read that E9 = I_ _ P. The problem is dichotomies don't work. If you truly want to know your type, you must get have a good understanding of cognitive functions (Ti, Fi, Se, etc.) There is no real affect since MB is cognitive and enneagram is more emotional/spiritual.

You are right. MBTI and Enneagram are two seperate things, and are based on different things. There is no conversion from one to the other. I personally think that people can have any combination of MBTI and Enneagram. (Although certain MBTI types are found with certain Enn. types more often than others.) I also believe that they interact with each other.

I was not asking in the OP how they are the same. I was asking, on a personal level, how the mix of MBTI and Enneagram effect people.

So, Functianalyst, how do your 9 and your ISTP interact to effect your life?

[Harley]

My life motto is basically 'calm the fuck down' when shit hits the fan, because any deviation from that train of thought usually results in more shit spattering.
My first instinct when things go out of sync or trouble is afoot is to think first and foremost the root of the cause, and work my way up.
I usually enjoy these kinds of situation, gets me all creative (albeit a bit stressful).
I like to say I don't get angry, just frustrated and usually those moments don't last very long. When I'm really frustrated to the point where it seems like anger I just stay mute, because I am trying to calm myself down.
I like to convince myself that somebody\thing is never truly the cause to blame, there are always a multitude of factors and people that affect the situation, so I'm not really interested in revenge or retribution. Seems like a waste of time.

[babblingbrook]

I think INFPs (probably with type 4) can be intense, passionate, emotional and pessimistic while the 9 type is usually calm, steady, cool-headed and optimistic.

I read some INFP description about INFPs being future oriented, but as a 9 I'm not.

[Functianalyst]

You are right. MBTI and Enneagram are two seperate things, and are based on different things. There is no conversion from one to the other. I personally think that people can have any combination of MBTI and Enneagram. (Although certain MBTI types are found with certain Enn. types more often than others.) I also believe that they interact with each other.

I was not asking in the OP how they are the same. I was asking, on a personal level, how the mix of MBTI and Enneagram effect people. So, Functianalyst, how do your 9 and your ISTP interact to effect your life?

Thanks for the clarity. Without a doubt it is my nineness that has always affected me internally and is who I am with all my scars and warts. In fact I would say that being nine is the essence of who I truly am and all that aspire to be and do. ISTP is what I tend to show the world and what I use to cope with my everyday existence. In saying that, I think that may be the striking difference between the systems. The enneagram is who we truly are and MBTI is our personality.

[AhmenRah]

I guess it all boils down to simplicity. The times when you want to do something but don't feel compelled or motivated to do so. The times when there might be so much at stake, but you are almost indecisive. How the type 9 intergrates into your life style all depends on what the situation is, how you have evolved your type 9 skills, and what kind of a person you are.

I know that I am mentally, if not physically strong, I know that many people who think that they can trample over me are people who I could easily be triumphiant over. However given the chance, I would probably resort to either withdrawing, or letting someone else fight my war.

Perhaps a good phrase for an type 9 would be "I will not draw first blood nor shoot the first shot, however after that blood is first drawn or that shoot is first fired, I will run headlong into my battle and I will use all that I must to win."
~for a side note, I wonder how many type 9's tend to flinch a lot as I myself tend to do~

[Ćerulean]

I see my 9ness affecting my J preference the most of all my letters. Generally I like to keep conversation and the place of events in a structured way. But instead of coldly telling others how things need to, to flow in this J-like way of doing things, my enneatype helps me to convey what I mean without coming off as hot headed. It's important for me to know other people don't feel obligated or pressured to do anything simply because I said so, I'm merely putting it out there and/or informing them that that's how I'd prefer things to be. And if they disagree with me, being a 9 can cause me to think of possibly rewording what I meant to say in a way where it'd be accommodating for both of us.

[mcgooglian]

I agree with people just to shut them up as well.
One way my 9 affects my MBTI type is that it makes me naturally smile a lot when talking to people (to the point where I have had people think that I'd been drinking) and it makes me seem warmer than what you'd expect from an IxTx.

"I will not draw first blood nor shoot the first shot, however after that blood is first drawn or that shoot is first fired, I will run headlong into my battle and I will use all that I must to win."
That phrase applies to me a lot. I won't draw the first blood but I can be quite nasty when angry. The one thing I gotta watch out for though is that once I start getting angry, I'll respond in a similar way the person I'm angry at is. If they're yelling, I yell and do my best to make them feel bad. If however, they're doing something physical that's making me angry, then I respond physically which is when I have to retrain myself more because I get angrier at this time and being a strong guy means I really have to watch out to make sure I don't hurt the person. The last time someone did something physical to piss me off, they ended up with their face on the table in an arm lock (and I was restraining myself).