[hmwith]

I notice a huge difference between 9s who are "thinkers" and 9s who are "feelers", though I see how they're all still 9s.

They're "peacemakers" in very different ways. However, I can't quite put my finger on the differences.

Has anyone else noticed this?

[doner21]

HI hmwith

please can you state the differences you have observed between the two types

[Vic]

My observation:

Thinkers seek discussion to resolve open issues.

Feelers avoid confrontation altogether.

[MBTI Enthusiast]

HI hmwith

please can you state the differences you have observed between the two types

Sadly it appears @hmwith is banned...

My observation:

Thinkers seek discussion to resolve open issues.

Feelers avoid confrontation altogether.

This could be true. At first I didn't think so, but I do tend to want to "fix" problems with others right away instead of trying to sweep them under the rug.

I hypothesize that Thinkers are more selfish with their inner peace, more willing to sacrifice others to maintain it. An example would be refusing to go out with a friend one night when they were planning staying home to watch their favorite TV show.

A feeler might be more easily swayed by the guilting of others, prioritizing maintenance of peace in their relationships with others.

So to sum that up, maybe Feelers are more focused on maintaining interpeace, whereas Thinkers are more focused on maintaining intrapeace?

Just a thought.

[Agelaius]

So to sum that up, maybe Feelers are more focused on maintaining interpeace, whereas Thinkers are more focused on maintaining intrapeace?

I could certainly see that. At the end of the day, harmony is (hopefully) achieved, though the route as to which it is may vary greatly. For a feeler that is guilted, they might not have as much fun if they weren't interested, but at least a part of them will remain at peace. If they ignore it and do something else entirely that doesn't involve what they were guilted into, there's a chance they'll still feel guilty and try to make it up later. Not sure how a thinker might handle the situations of either going out or staying in within that scenario. Thoughts?

[Harley]

I hypothesize that Thinkers are more selfish with their inner peace, more willing to sacrifice others to maintain it. An example would be refusing to go out with a friend one night when they were planning staying home to watch their favorite TV show.
So to sum that up, maybe Feelers are more focused on maintaining interpeace, whereas Thinkers are more focused on maintaining intrapeace?

Pretty much. My main focus in life is trying to achieve an inner sense of calm and balance along with autonomy. I couldn't care less about becoming the next Mother Theresa or achieving world peace. I'm pretty selfish in harbouring a stable sense of self, for example whenever I come across someone who is crying or is upset my first thought isn't to ask them what's wrong and if they're OK, it's to ask if that person's negative state of emotions is affecting me. I am very sensitive to things like that, and try to distance myself from individuals who are prone to volatile emotions lest I want to constantly lose my shit. Also I am more interested in intellectual harmony and balance, in that I love linking seemingly contradictory ideas and schools of thought together and trying to find connections between subjects and theories. In essence it brings me a sort of peace trying to find the common thread that links everything together, you know the circle of life, heh.

Not sure how a thinker might handle the situations of either going out or staying in within that scenario. Thoughts?

As someone who values their sense of peace of self-preservation greatly I would not feel bad one bit in that scenario. I might feel a bit hesitant at first but once I realize that my sense of self is at stake I will not budge. I can compromise on a lot of things and am willing to stretch here in there in ways most people wouldn't, but one thing I will not let anyone cross is my sense of comfort and calm. As referenced in the above post I'm very selfish with my peace

[princessJAY]

This could be true. At first I didn't think so, but I do tend to want to "fix" problems with others right away instead of trying to sweep them under the rug.

I hypothesize that Thinkers are more selfish with their inner peace, more willing to sacrifice others to maintain it. An example would be refusing to go out with a friend one night when they were planning staying home to watch their favorite TV show.

A feeler might be more easily swayed by the guilting of others, prioritizing maintenance of peace in their relationships with others.

So to sum that up, maybe Feelers are more focused on maintaining interpeace, whereas Thinkers are more focused on maintaining intrapeace?

This is definitely true for me. Ti + 9 leads me to strategically and efficiently avoid conflict in a way that preserves my inner peace; i.e. I try to arrange things so that there is no conflict to begin with. But if I have to, I want to address the issue immediately, as I dislike that disturbed feeling when in conflict with someone I care about.

I also find the scenario of unhappily doing something to avoid conflict or guilt completely illogical. It would not satisfy my love of inner peace if I have to suffer through something I don't want, seething all the time in resentment (probably the w8), leading to me lash out sometime down the road. Nope, much better to find a workable solution for everyone to have what they want...

[nottie]

My observation:

Thinkers seek discussion to resolve open issues.

Feelers avoid confrontation altogether.

Nah. Sometimes I need time to process what my thoughts are and decide if the issue is worth pursuing, but once I decide it's worthwhile I just want to get it done. I hate nothing more than everyone ignoring the elephant in the room. xD


Conflict excites me, actually.. it's just that I have a knee jerk reaction to jump in and solve the issue.

I hypothesize that Thinkers are more selfish with their inner peace, more willing to sacrifice others to maintain it. An example would be refusing to go out with a friend one night when they were planning staying home to watch their favorite TV show.

A feeler might be more easily swayed by the guilting of others, prioritizing maintenance of peace in their relationships with others.

I'd guess this would have a lot to do with the variant stackings, as well.

[madhatter]

Conflict excites me, actually.. it's just that I have a knee jerk reaction to jump in and solve the issue.

Depending on the type of conflict, I'm like this too: all I want to do sit back with some popcorn and watch. But at other times, I can't even watch a scene in a movie if it's highly charged with strong and painful emotions. If I know it's coming, I'll actually leave the room until it's over. But of course, as a Thinker, I have a reputation to uphold. I can't let people know that I can't take something, especially a fictional something. I have my back-up excuses at the ready.

[MBTI Enthusiast]

I'd guess this would have a lot to do with the variant stackings, as well.

You're probably right about that. That was quite an sp answer I gave. Haha. Surely I would feel differently if I was an so. Now that makes me wonder if MBTI is correlated to variant stackings at all. I think I heard once that sp is more likely to be Sensing. Hmm...