[Inguz]

may be to deter more violence? :-)

I've always had a talent to avoid any consequences in such situations, and honesty is about the last priority I have on my mind at that point. Plausible lies or denial, facts as red herrings, playing dumb in general and then giving off a calm appearance are my usual tools in such situations. I'm honest if the energies put out tell me that verbal/physical violence isn't a prioritized option at the moment.

[voicetrocity]

To be completely honest- I don't really notice nor care how I come across to people when first meeting.
When I'm first introduced to someone, I analyze (aka: "sniff out") their vibe and decide if they're someone I want to associate with or not, LONG before I ever put enough of myself out there for them to analyze me- If the initial vibe I get is "ok" to me, I'll slowly begin to warm up to them.

That being said; I seem to attract people like a magnet, which annoys the heck out of me-I think this has something to do with outwardly appearing more like my 7 wing, in social situations, than anything; Most people who do get to know me are both surprised and delighted by my honest and "no nonsense" nature; though my protective (and slightly overbearing) nature takes more time for others to get used to than most of my other traits. That being said, I do have a filtering system like Swordsman stated his friend has.

- if they're offended, filter them out
- if they're intimidated, filter them out
- if they're inspired, maybe keep them
- if they are unaffected and respond normally to you, they're a keeper

The only thing I'll add is if that person proves themselves to be controlling or discriminatory in any way, I won't bother with them. I also feel compelled to add that I DO carry this list around with me even years after someone passes my initial "vibe test". I'm not one to waste my time trying to associate with someone who I'm going to lock horns with all the time, I have better things to do, and if you prove to me that we won't get along (even if we've associated for quite some time), I have no problem shutting the door and locking it.

There's really no reason to be spooked! I consider myself to be a nice person and if you show me respect, I'll make sure you get it right back. I try and make sure my long standing friends all receive the utmost respect, loyalty, generosity and compassion that I can give.

[emerald sea]

You probably shouldn't throw that word around like its candy. I'm pretty sure the majority of 8w7's don't torture small animals in their back yards.

i agree!! negative generalizations about any type are known as typism (illegal on this forum)...and, to equate any enneatype with sociopathy is to disregard the existence of psychological health.

my dad and various other people i know irl are 8s, i like all of them, and have yet to meet one irl who is at all sociopathic. i'm drawn towards them because they are strong, intense, courageous, emotional at their core, inspiring and protective, and - as an Fe user - feel naturally repulsed by anyone with cruel instincts...if that tells you anything.

power can be used in a healthy way - a lot of 8s use their power to protect others, lead and stand alone for whatever they think, choose, or value. every enneatype can wield their strength in a healthy way, and power can be dangerous in the hands of anyone of any enneatype who does not have the best interest of others at heart.

To help: do people either "hate you or love you" upon making your acquaintance?

this could be incorrect, but i've read that sx instinctual subtypes frequently encounter strong responses from people, such that others either hate them or love them - no neutrality.

[DamonL]

My experience with 8w7's: sociopaths.

I have been called that countless times..

[DJArendee]

I have been called that countless times..

Probably one of the few things people say to me that actually hurts.

[DamonL]

Probably one of the few things people say to me that actually hurts.

Is it because you can actually feel but have to put em aside to survive?
It used to piss me off but now even I can't tell if the string between feelings and my brain, so I stopped getting mad.

[DJArendee]

For me its because I'm extremely emotional, but people don't see it. I have a very loud and vivid inner world which I base my whole being upon, and when someone suggests I'm a heartless monster, its not only very isolating, but devalues who I am. I'm unsure if I should tell them how shallow they are, or if I should take it upon myself to be more expressive.

[TreeBob]

I really feel bad for you guys if people are calling you sociopaths.

[AgnosticGirl]

My experience with 8w7's: sociopaths.

You are overlooking the fact that 8s are overly honest (direct) and sociopaths are pathological liars.

Type 8: No I don't love you
*No morning after*
Sociopath: I love you. Let's make love.
*leaves after getting needs met*

[Aena]

Hate me or love me, they want my approval.

They come to me for decision and reality-checks.