[crzysttchr]

so, looking thru this, knowing that I am a strong type 2... I want to see more of us. How come we don't have a thread? hmmmm

I was reading the book "Am I your type?" and W@W does it ever make things clearer for me!

I realized that there are many ENFP's who are 2 and 7... but W@W again... so.. let me know any others and we can compare ourseleves!

Lynn

[Rushing Wind]

HI! (okay, but seriously) Yeah, I'm a two. But I have some 7 as well..... REALLY its 2/3/9 ... with some 7 mixed in there, but w/e. Happy Comparing!

[starri]

so, looking thru this, knowing that I am a strong type 2... I want to see more of us. How come we don't have a thread? hmmmm

I was reading the book "Am I your type?" and W@W does it ever make things clearer for me!

I realized that there are many ENFP's who are 2 and 7... but W@W again... so.. let me know any others and we can compare ourseleves!

Lynn

Tell me more about your daily habits and routines and everything there is to know about you. :O

How did you first take the fact of knowing you are a 2?

How would you take control?

Who is responsible for your friends' feelings?

Do you take alone *me* time? what do you do in it?

Do you get times that you think "I'm selfish and should work more on calling this this and this person?" [ ADD interfering with the 2ness] Does the 2 make you feel more Jish?

How do you think you would deal with other strong 2s? who would be giving more?

Do you agree to this statement "The only people you need in your life are the ones who prove they need you in theirs." and act upon it by constantly filtering the people you know when you feel less adored/needed?

Sorry I got all detective on you :D but you are 2 and will answer me anyway because i love yoozz!

[crzysttchr]

Cause I like you too and you asked me questions that are REALLY gonna make me think!

Tell me more about your daily habits and routines and everything there is to know about you. :O

I like to have time to myself in the morning (which I almost never get), I always drive the same way to work, I think this part it tooo huge to contemplate and may need to work on answering it...lol

How did you first take the fact of knowing you are a 2?
well, when reading this ( http://personalitycafe.com/enneagram...-2-helper.html ) what a 2 wouild say about themself, it could have been me writing this quote. I could not believe how ME it was. It would take me a while to come up with that quote, but I would eventually. I am not surprised; I have always been a great listener, empathetic; a teacher of sorts in many areas; and I do have a strong 1 wing to. I am surprised how much the enneagram is tied to our personality as well.
I do find that no one truly ""gets"" me, that I am constantly not showing the ""real"" me. Almost like I have to subdue my effervesence, my giddiness, my ups and downs. I remember feeling when I was still in marriage that I was so downtrodden, so belittled, that if I could scream my frustration, I would never stop, and would scare others with my level of emotion. It would be nice to find someone who would """truly get me""",,, so I could truly let myself out - but that is the ENFP characteristics I am talking about, I guess.

How would you take control?
I am very subtle and creative, you could almost say manipulative, but with finesse. lol With people who are not that important to me (ex, ppl I don't like) i will use guilt (giggle)

Who is responsible for your friends' feelings?
My friends are responsible for their feeligs, but I feel a strong need/desire to help them, make it better, fix it, help in any way possible... and my friends feelings directly affect mine... guess being an empath is like that...... we absorb everything around us, but can bounce back quickly.

Do you take alone *me* time? what do you do in it?
I don't take enuf "me" time, this is one of my faults and I seriously need to work on it. I would argue that my going to university classes was "me" time in that it is something I truly enjoy, need, want; and am away from family and friends.
Other ways i spend "me" time: on the puter with my door locked, going for walks alone, reading ( I can get so caught up in a book that you need a sledgehammer and a bomb to get me out of it), napping (ha ha my poor tired brain needs sleep, esp when stressed).

Do you get times that you think "I'm selfish and should work more on calling this this and this person?" [ ADD interfering with the 2ness] Does the 2 make you feel more Jish?
I constantly feel like I am needing to contact someone or other. I feel like that alot, but then I try to reason that I need some time for "me" as I am ""doing"" for everyone else. I constantly feel like I am being pulled in many directions against my will.

How do you think you would deal with other strong 2s? who would be giving more?
I have not met any one else like me. Some ppl i have met seem to have either an ulterior motive or don't have the same level of empathy I have. I seem to feel that I have the good of man and feel trust for most people; many who meet me say they are amazed at my level of "upness" openness, happiness, general well being (for all the shit i have been thru) and are amazed that I am as "well adjusted" as I am... the strong, ever enduring ENFP level 2 person!

Do you agree to this statement "The only people you need in your life are the ones who prove they need you in theirs." and act upon it by constantly filtering the people you know when you feel less adored/needed
Yes, and the ones who are not needed are not given a place of importance in my life. I am kind to everyone and considerate, but the ones who are close??? they are few and very important!

Sorry I got all detective on you :D but you are 2 and will answer me anyway because i love yoozz!

No problem. Does this help you figure me out any? Is eye opening to have someone else ask you questions you don't think to ask yourself! So, can the psychologists in the house read me? what do you think of me???? (prollly need toread the divorce post to see the whole picture, but to really know me? I would need to write a book).

Lynn

[starri]

wow. I so very love you for answering thoroughly! When you were younger did you have personality criseses as you had no one stable persona in attempts to please and get invlved with those around you?

i might not be able to understand you just yet, but i can very much relate to you =]

we must talk later about much more xD
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[Grim]

Many large beasties have found their death at the hands of the mother hen in her home... thinking they had found an easy, weak target.

Do you find you pride yourself more on how much you had to sacrifice to do something for someone... that it makes you more worthy of their love and respect?

[crzysttchr]

wow. I so very love you for answering thoroughly! When you were younger did you have personality criseses as you had no one stable persona in attempts to please and get invlved with those around you?

i might not be able to understand you just yet, but i can very much relate to you =]

we must talk later about much more xD
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1. Awwwww thanks Alizee.... funny how you should mention "no one stable persona".

I had a very stable childhood (except for the repressed memory of sexual abuse - but I have healed myself, and then the perpetrator died a painful, cancer ridden death) and my parents were very stable and loving. What I find strange tho is that when I think of my childhood, I can't see my mother. it is like a void. I know she was there (she was a stay at home mom) but I see myself taking care of my sibs and being the "responsible one"... I don't know quite what to make of that.
When I married my now current ex, I was subconsciously looking for someone to take care of me, but it backfired; he became uber controlling, narcississtic and almost crushed my spirit. funny how ENFP's are truly sooo much stronger than they appear. Like God keeps giving us only as much as we can bear and I have borne alot! I did not have very many friends as a child, I was a loner and did not "come into" myself and my confidence until my late twenties. I am sooo much more now, does that make sense?

so there is more about ME Lynn

[crzysttchr]

Many large beasties have found their death at the hands of the mother hen in her home... thinking they had found an easy, weak target.

Do you find you pride yourself more on how much you had to sacrifice to do something for someone... that it makes you more worthy of their love and respect?

W@W Grim....that was so me in my marriage. I was almost martyr like. Trying to fix and do everything, and in the end? nothing worth showing.. he is a terrible bastard. but I am so much stronger. I just wish I chould have woken up earlier to my strengths and stood up to his bullying.
I am still like that to a degree, but am getting better in saying NO... so, is that evolving or de-evolving? I think it is a bonus that I am stronger.

Lynn

[Grim]

W@W Grim....that was so me in my marriage. I was almost martyr like. Trying to fix and do everything, and in the end? nothing worth showing.. he is a terrible bastard. but I am so much stronger. I just wish I chould have woken up earlier to my strengths and stood up to his bullying.
I am still like that to a degree, but am getting better in saying NO... so, is that evolving or de-evolving? I think it is a bonus that I am stronger.

Lynn

I think that is a healthy progression. You're getting more comfortable not putting your selfworth on the table for others to decide for you. You're getting more comfortable with yourself and realizing you don't have to buy someone's love/respect with your service.

In the end as long as you're happy, and feel true to self; I'd guess you're on the right track

[sunshine]

so, looking thru this, knowing that I am a strong type 2... I want to see more of us. How come we don't have a thread? hmmmm

I was reading the book "Am I your type?" and W@W does it ever make things clearer for me!

I realized that there are many ENFP's who are 2 and 7... but W@W again... so.. let me know any others and we can compare ourseleves!

Lynn

Sorry to kind of derail the thread, but I would just like to let you know that you are not alone in your enneagramness. I'm 2w3. Hiii!