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Type 2's - How healthy are you?

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#1 ·
Because I found this really interesting and in fact, helpful for me in being able to 'label' those levels of healty-ness i go through...I definately relate to some more than others, but definately nice to know that when I slip to unhealthy or average, its OK, im not in fact lost, Ive just become a bit unhealthy... :laughing:

Healthy Levels

Level 1 (At Their Best): Become deeply unselfish, humble, and altruistic: giving unconditional love to self and others. Feel it is a privilege to be in the lives of others.

Level 2: Empathetic, compassionate, feeling for others. Caring and concerned about their needs. Thoughtful, warm-hearted, forgiving and sincere.

Level 3: Encouraging and appreciative, able to see the good in others. Service is important, but takes care of self too: they are nurturing, generous, and giving—a truly loving person.

Average Levels

Level 4: Want to be closer to others, so start "people pleasing," becoming overly friendly, emotionally demonstrative, and full of "good intentions" about everything. Give seductive attention: approval, "strokes," flattery. Love is their supreme value, and they talk about it constantly.

Level 5: Become overly intimate and intrusive: they need to be needed, so they hover, meddle, and control in the name of love. Want others to depend on them: give, but expect a return: send double messages. Enveloping and possessive: the codependent, self-sacrificial person who cannot do enough for others—wearing themselves out for everyone, creating needs for themselves to fulfill.

Level 6: Increasingly self-important and self-satisfied, feel they are indispensable, although they overrate their efforts in others' behalf. Hypochondria, becoming a "martyr" for others. Overbearing, patronizing, presumptuous.

Unhealthy Levels

Level 7: Can be manipulative and self-serving, instilling guilt by telling others how much they owe them and make them suffer. Abuse food and medication to "stuff feelings" and get sympathy. Undermine people, making belittling, disparaging remarks. Extremely self-deceptive about their motives and how aggressive and/or selfish their behavior is.

Level 8: Domineering and coercive: feel entitled to get anything they want from others: the repayment of old debts, money, sexual favors.

Level 9: Able to excuse and rationalize what they do since they feel abused and victimized by others and are bitterly resentful and angry. Somatization of their aggressions result in chronic health problems as they vindicate themselves by "falling apart" and burdening others. Generally corresponds to the Histrionic Personality Disorder and Factitious Disorder.
Im really pleased to say that I can relate to Levels 1, 2 & 3 really well...and yes, I glow when I reach these levels. On the average scale, I hit level 5 most of the time but rarely 4 or 6 (6 would be the next if i had to choose one). And Unhealthy, definately 9 more often than not. I tend to slip very easily between healthy and unhealthy without much of the average too

Hope this helps somebody :laughing:

Pie x
 
#2 ·
I generally hover around 4 and 5. When I reach my healthy states, it's like nothing can stop me. I love everyone, and I love helping them, and it gives me the greatest feeling of accomplishment and worth.
When unhealthy, I relate to 7 and 9. I make myself sick keeping emotions inside.
 
#3 ·
I'm usually around a 3 or 4, but when I'm down I drop to a 7. Then it takes forever for me to get back up to my usual level. But when I'm good, I'm great. For instance, I just made a coffee cake for the guys at my work (this is the third time?) just because. They love the stuff so why not? It's not often you can please 12 men at once without taking any clothes off :laughing:
 
#4 ·
Right now, probably between 2 and 3. A few years ago 8 or 9.
 
#5 ·
Level 3: Encouraging and appreciative, able to see the good in others. Service is important, but takes care of self too: they are nurturing, generous, and giving&#8212a truly loving person.

Falling to level 4, but I have experience with being at level 9 so I'll be clear on my needs and wants before I fall to that level again. If nothing else at least I'll prepare and warn people so they know what that is.
 
#7 ·
probably at the high end of Level 1

Become deeply unselfish, humble, and altruistic: giving unconditional love to self and others. Feel it is a privilege to be in the lives of others.

this sums up everything. i look up to too many people i wish i was like that i don't really embrace myself enough. infact, not at all actually. i give painfully unconditional love to others.
 
#8 ·
I thought I was healthier than I was...it took recent relationship problems to realize the ****** in my healthy armor. It is easy for me to reach the healthy levels (1, 2, and 3) with complete strangers. I also tend to be a lot healthier when I'm single. Being in a relationship, however, generally brings out my insecurities and my co-dependent tendencies. When things are going bad, I can relate to all the unhealthy levels, though 7 more than the others. At the moment (and most of the time), I'm probably a 4 or a 5.
 
#11 ·
I thought I was healthier than I was...it took recent relationship problems to realize the ****** in my healthy armor. It is easy for me to reach the healthy levels (1, 2, and 3) with complete strangers. I also tend to be a lot healthier when I'm single. Being in a relationship, however, generally brings out my insecurities and my co-dependent tendencies. When things are going bad, I can relate to all the unhealthy levels, though 7 more than the others. At the moment (and most of the time), I'm probably a 4 or a 5.
Do you think you reach healthy levels or that you know that's your good side and only show that side with strangers/friends and let your guard down a bit more with partners? I would imagine it's the same for all types.
 
#9 ·
Im so altruistic that if i had a time machine i would go back in time and help adolf hitler as mad as that sounds.
id help him become a better person...not to kill more jews if anyone was thinking otherwise.

surely there must be something wrong with that thought :unsure:
 
#15 ·
*phew!* just asked last night what an unhealthy 2 looked like and I'm so happy I'm healthy. stressed maybe but not too crazy :p was kinda going crazy there. much happier now minus the fact that every description is a little extreme in some parts of its narrations but, it happens. I get it. It is what it is ...
 
#17 ·
In between leveL 2/3


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