Has there ever been an ENTP 1?
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Has there ever been an ENTP 1?
Introversion seems to be popular on these boards. 1s prefer to keep to themselves until making changes. I've seen 1s which were extroverted but they really seemed to be focused on a cause of some sort, and probably more focused on morals.
I see no reason a type 1 would have trouble being N or T.
Although the majority of 1's are J's, any combination is theoretically possible. However, I haven't come across any ISFP, ISTP or ENFP 1's as yet.
I imagine if there was they wouldn't last too long as the ENTP part of the body would try to smother the 1 bits, while the 1 part tried to strangle the ENTP bits.
Yeah, it would be fun to watch… from a distance.
If you have someone in your life that seems like this combination before you jump to this prospect consider the more common combinations of ISFJ E1 under stress dealing with Inf Ne-Tert Ti controlling them in unpleasant ways, or an ENTP E7 under stress disintegrating to an anal perfectionist E1.
I do not think it's necessarily contradictory. I spend a lot of time thinking about the consequences of my actions. That thought process does constrain the set of actions available to me, however I think it is a fair trade to maintain my core set of principles.
I know I was very detail-oriented as a child without any stress; I could concentrate and zone out for several hours creating something. The descriptions for a stressed 7 becoming a perfectionist 1 usually involve being a scattered 7. I have done well so far in my life, which is not the result of being scattered.
Let's put it this way ... I don't wait for my debauchery to catch up to me before I start thinking about the consequences of my actions.
However, in the case that I am a stressed 7, where would you find a reasonable description of such a state? I cannot relate to the unhealthy nor the average level descriptions in the following link 7 - Enneagram Type Seven: The Enthusiast . I can certainly relate to some of the healthy aspects of 7, but moreso 1.
EDIT: Found some other sites that specifically addressed 7s mistyping as 1s, and they provided some other clues into how personalities could develop such that the confusion is possible.
What I found so contrasting is that the description for Type 1 is so negative in comparison to Type 7, which I am not sure if it's true. For example, they describe the underlying source for Type 1s as a simmering anger?! I guess I have to understand the origins of Enneagram to get a better understanding of how this works and whether these popular descriptions are nonsensical or not.
I am more aligned to the more positive aspects of 7 than to the negative aspects of 1. I don't know where that leaves me.
I will admit to using anger when I see some injustice to enable action. It provides me great motivation/energy, like a lawyer preparing for a prosecution in front of a jury.
Last edited by AJ2011; 01-19-2012 at 07:35 AM.
I looked at the description of Type 4. In times of stress, I have felt some of the descriptions in the average/unhealthy levels:
- shy and self-conscious, unable to be spontaneous or to "get out of themselves"
- stay withdrawn to buy time to sort out feelings
- melancholy dreamers, living in a fantasy world
- increasingly impractical, unproductive
Basically, I try not to cause hurt to others and become extremely introverted, when I am in such a state. However, when things got crazy bad, it was actually useful, because I allowed myself to go there. There was no thing as utter despair. I bounced back pretty well from such situations, because it always became clear I was in my head too much and needed to move things forward. I usually found something to support enthusiastically and get outside of myself. In this way, I somehow transform the negative energy of despair into something positive.
I don't know if that even makes sense outside of me. It's like a spring I keep pushing down (as I'm getting more stressed), which I then release and run like hell with the energy of the spring ...
Interesting though. Do you have a good book you would recommend on Enneagrams?
On another note, perhaps some activist lawyers could be ENTP Type 1s.