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Type One Without Morals?

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#1 ·
How connected is Type One to the idea of morality? Is there a more psychological term that could be substituted for "morals"?

When I took the enneagram test, I identified with the type one description I was given. But I don't really see myself as someone who's strongly attached to morals. I think that in the past I was more like that, but now I feel less strongly about that sort of thing.

Is it a phase? Is it possible for my type to shift? I still have some morals, maybe I just need the right environment or circumstances to bring out that aspect of my personality. Or perhaps being a type one has more to do with a mindset than actual morals.
 
#2 ·
I think a better term would be strong opinions. A One's sense of self is defined by their opinions. All "moral codes" boil down to nothing more than opinions, formulated by how we are raised and the empathic instinct we are all born with.

Yes, I realize it seems like an oxymoron: A nihilistic One. But I am far from uncaring. Even though I know my principles are baseless and ultimately illogical, I can't help but feel a sort of outrage in my blood over perceived wrongdoing, followed by an almost compulsive desire to "set things right."

Emotions might be illogical, but emotions also just are.

Never mind me, I'm just kinda talking (typing?) to myself.
 
#3 ·
Not very. Perfectionism can be manifested in other areas of life. Some 1s need to have a flawlessly clean living and working environment. Some 1s work constantly at self-improvement, so the object of their perfectionism is themselves. Some try to do everything perfectly at their work and criticize themselves if they make a small mistake. Morals isn't the only faucet where 1-ness is expressed.
 
#4 ·
"Positive emotional connection to ideals" may be a better phrase for "morals." I know I have an inner critic that is always picking different targets. It could be a messy room, or a "Why did you say that dumb thing?" or "You did nothing on it as usual. You suck," comments that will bounce around in my head, just to add my take on this.
 
#5 ·
Don't you think in "good" and "bad" terms regardless of the situation involved? You might not agree with another type 1 on what is good or bad per say but if you are a type 1 then supposedly you act or have certain standards which you follow to do the "right" thing. There is more to a type 1 but I'm focusing on the morals part of it.
 
#6 ·
Personally my morals are quite high, though there are some situations where I sometimes accept breaking the rules.
1. If the rules are very vague (makes them less important and "acceptable for breaking")
2. If the rules are stupid, and don't make logical sense.
 
#7 ·
It's possible, at least in my case. Type 1 is almost always in my top 3 highest scores, and lately I've been nursing a bout of nihilism. But there are other places in my personal life where my compulsion to be right manifests (e.g. my work, my lack of a love life).
 
#8 ·
The typical descriptions of 1s as "morally righteous" are most applicable to Fi-dominant ones like ISFP-1 or INFP-1. I know an older INFP type 1 male who strives to live his life Christ-like and looks down upon people who do not aim for the same. He has very strong moral code that he follows himself and expects others to follow.

In other types, such as ENTP or ISTP, 1-ness would manifest differently.
 
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