[TheRamona369]

Hello Guys. The names Gift



Pleased to meet you. Todays question: what has been your challenges as a 1w2? And what have you learned to appreciate aboout your type?

[Vaan]

My main challenge is being able to balance my objective rationality with my will to get close to people to help them. It is getting easier every day though ^^.

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for me its a love & hate conflict between wanting to get close to people, and just ignoring people because they're not worth my time

ah it's a shame really. Every time I try to get to know people, I just get this gut feeling that no one likes me because they're too busy thinking I'm a prick a-hole. and so I brush it off, with just formal greetings, and totally skip the whole warm welcome greeting.

[TheRamona369]

for me its a love & hate conflict between wanting to get close to people, and just ignoring people because they're not worth my time

ah it's a shame really. Every time I try to get to know people, I just get this gut feeling that no one likes me because they're too busy thinking I'm a prick a-hole. and so I brush it off, with just formal greetings, and totally skip the whole warm welcome greeting.

Love hate made more sense to me xD

[TheRamona369]

for me its a love & hate conflict between wanting to get close to people, and just ignoring people because they're not worth my time

ah it's a shame really. Every time I try to get to know people, I just get this gut feeling that no one likes me because they're too busy thinking I'm a prick a-hole. and so I brush it off, with just formal greetings, and totally skip the whole warm welcome greeting.

I understand. I'm stuck in that rut too. It's like there is no happy medium or at least it's hard to matintain one. I choose to keep hope alive though. Maybe something good will come out of all this xD

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I understand. I'm stuck in that rut too. It's like there is no happy medium or at least it's hard to matintain one. I choose to keep hope alive though. Maybe something good will come out of all this xD

OH GOD! tell me about it! there IS no medium!
that kind of just drives me nuts that I can't seem to find a medium! haha!
but then again I think it also because my MBTI as an INTP comes to play too.

its basically clashing all over the place.

I get extremely enthusiastic about talking to someone,
3 minute into the conversation then doubts start kicking as
as I swear I see signs that people aren't paying attention, and then I turn 2 face!

and it comes out as me seemingly being a egoistic flawless b_tch
while wearing a poker face mask on.

gosh. then you find out later the people either

1) have different opinion of you or
2) my haunch from earlier was right,

and yeah... I just give up trying to guess what people think of me.
And continue on my lonewolf act. because in the end, hanging out
with people stresses me out anyways.

If I listen to people talk then it means I have to care,
and when I care, I have to take time & give out good advices.

and giving out good advices mean trying to help people solve their problem
vs just trying to listening to them and give false opinion.

and then all your hard works goes to nothing as the person literally
don't take any advices nor do they bother to think what so ever how
I arrived at my conclusion in the first place:

because they are too busy trying
to defend themselves as they see my advice as criticism/insult to their face.

that's just too much commitment on my part.

its like having the oil in water. its not mixingggggg.

[TheRamona369]

OH GOD! tell me about it! there IS no medium!
that kind of just drives me nuts that I can't seem to find a medium! haha!
but then again I think it also because my MBTI as an INTP comes to play too.

its basically clashing all over the place.

I get extremely enthusiastic about talking to someone,
3 minute into the conversation then doubts start kicking as
as I swear I see signs that people aren't paying attention, and then I turn 2 face!

and it comes out as me seemingly being a egoistic flawless b_tch
while wearing a poker face mask on.

gosh. then you find out later the people either

1) have different opinion of you or
2) my haunch from earlier was right,

and yeah... I just give up trying to guess what people think of me.
And continue on my lonewolf act. because in the end, hanging out
with people stresses me out anyways.

If I listen to people talk then it means I have to care,
and when I care, I have to take time & give out good advices.

and giving out good advices mean trying to help people solve their problem
vs just trying to listening to them and give false opinion.

and then all your hard works goes to nothing as the person literally
don't take any advices nor do they bother to think what so ever how
I arrived at my conclusion in the first place:

because they are too busy trying
to defend themselves as they see my advice as criticism/insult to their face.

that's just too much commitment on my part.

its like having the oil in water. its not mixingggggg.

Lol so then what do you do? Just give up. That doen't solve anything cuz anyways regardless you will still find yourself going back to doing things that way again! lol This is pretty insane.

And yah I feel you on the whole not taking advice. You would have a greater time with an INFP because we major in asking for advice and not taking it. I guess the person just needed someone to listen to their problems lol!

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Lol so then what do you do? Just give up. That doen't solve anything cuz anyways regardless you will still find yourself going back to doing things that way again! lol This is pretty insane.

What do I do?

*points it out*

I said

I just give up trying to guess what people think of me.

Are you telling me that doesn't solve anything? Really?
Because, it solves lots of things!

Trying to always guess how or what people
think of you is a un-healthy habit. thus I dropped it.

You would have a greater time with an INFP because we major in asking for advice and not taking it. I guess the person just needed someone to listen to their problems lol!

there is a reason why people ask advice: People NEED it.

people have their reasons for not wanting to take advices, I understand.

But going to a "potential someone" that you are asking for THEIR advice & TIME.
and you're just going to ask for "Advice" just because you want to hear 2nd hand opinion
just to verify if they have the same opinion of you, just so you can feel assured.

I wouldn't count on that on having a greater time with INFP that is.
Sorry, not gonna happen. Well for me anyways.
I'm a very busy person, and if people ask me for help, I take it very seriously.

Time is valuable. if you just need assurance, go to someone who is willing to listen and not give you
a complete detail response. Don't come to an INTP. similar to me in any way lol.
I'm not saying anyone should take my advice, I would care less. But it helped me MUCH more
if I was presented with that they really want out of me for an answer so I can give it accordingly.

no more no less meaning no sugar coating and no half baked replies

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As for what I have learned to appreciate for my type is.
my strict and sternness? If that make any sense.

yeah people see me as a prick sometime. But more often then not,
I usually find people so unorganized, and they just can't seem to
take anything seriously. They would put off their work, till the last minute
or sometime in time of crisis, they really don't know how to think rationally.

or worst, they get upset over little inconveniences.

So I find it useful to keep everyone in line.

I'd say everyone needs a little bit of everything. Sometime I need to learn how to
loosen up a little, and relax and spend time with my friends and family
vs spending time alone and my work too.

[TheRamona369]

My main challenge is being able to balance my objective rationality with my will to get close to people to help them. It is getting easier every day though ^^.

I find that I'm more subjective than objective. Idk it might have to do with you being an INFJ maybe?

[TheRamona369]

What do I do?

*points it out*

I said


Are you telling me that doesn't solve anything? Really?
Because, it solves lots of things!

Trying to always guess how or what people
think of you is a un-healthy habit. thus I dropped it.

Yes it is an unhealthy habit but it is still a habit. You can't just drop it at your whim and choosing. Its still gonna come back.




there is a reason why people ask advice: People NEED it.

people have their reasons for not wanting to take advices, I understand.

But going to a "potential someone" that you are asking for THEIR advice & TIME.
and you're just going to ask for "Advice" just because you want to hear 2nd hand opinion
just to verify if they have the same opinion of you, just so you can feel assured.

Sorry my friend but these things happen.

I wouldn't count on that on having a greater time with INFP that is.

I think the word was meant to be harder not greater

Sorry, not gonna happen. Well for me anyways.
I'm a very busy person, and if people ask me for help, I take it very seriously.

Time is valuable. if you just need assurance, go to someone who is willing to listen and not give you
a complete detail response. Don't come to an INTP. similar to me in any way lol.
I'm not saying anyone should take my advice, I would care less. But it helped me MUCH more
if I was presented with that they really want out of me for an answer so I can give it accordingly.


I understand where you are coming from but there are times when you just need someone to listen and not give you advice. Some people feel they always have to give advice because thats how they know how to help people but fact is people usually solve their own problems anyways they just need someone to help them process the thoughts and put things together.

So you're saying they just need to be upfront with what they want and then you'll decide if you are going to invest your time or not. Understandable.

no more no less meaning no sugar coating and no half baked replies

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As for what I have learned to appreciate for my type is.
my strict and sternness? If that make any sense.

i can sense your strictness and sternness. Its something too be admired because most people don't have it.

yeah people see me as a prick sometime. But more often then not,
I usually find people so unorganized, and they just can't seem to
take anything seriously. They would put off their work, till the last minute
or sometime in time of crisis, they really don't know how to think rationally.


Lol you had me laughing with this one. I am definitely that dororganized girl. The serious thing don't apply though uz people think Im sometimes too serious.

Being irrational at times is not a bad thing. Sometimes you gotta let yourself go and just be. Nothing to it.

or worst, they get upset over little inconveniences.

So I find it useful to keep everyone in line.

whatsaidye?

I'd say everyone needs a little bit of everything. Sometime I need to learn how to
loosen up a little, and relax and spend time with my friends and family
vs spending time alone and my work too.