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Body Type of Famous People and Their MBTI Type

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Android654:

No INFP? That is one of the casualties of the flawed Jungian system. Where are the SN and TF types in the Jungian system.

Look a little closer at the problem of the bipolarity of the MBTI (Jungian) functions and attitudes. The main problem is that all the functions are necessary to all organisms. We all think, feel, do and see. We differ however in our preferences for these functions. Some of us are DOERS while others are FEELERS. Some of us are THINKERS and others are SEERS. This is what is referred to as our dominant function. If we add a secondary (auxiliary) system to the mix (temperament means “mixture”) we then become FEELING-DOERS, THINKING-SEERS, DOER-THINKERS for a total of twelve combinations. If you consider the rejected, weakest, inferior function/system, you have 24 permutations. Note that this means you can have THINKING-FEELERS, and DOER (Sensation)-SEERS (Intuition). Jung never figured that out.

If there are only twelve primary types it can be expected that some of the MBTI types will prove to be redundant or not different enough to really be considered a distinct type.

MBTI is test based on word perception. Somatotype is based on measuring something physical.

As it turns out the INFP is really a special case of ENFJ. Read the descriptions for those two types and you'll notice some very strong similarities.
 
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Those of you who say body type has no relationship to personality are ignorant of the research into that area.

If you had an ounce of scientific curiosity you wouldn't be so quick to dismiss something you know absolutely nothing about.

Do you even know what your exact somatotype is? There are 1800 possible types.
 
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Bethdeth:

How do you really know if you are an ectomorph? There are skinny endomorphs. They find that out as they get old and fat. Furthermore, how do you know you are an INTJ. Is it because you scored INTJ on the MBTI? It's not a very reliable instrument.
 
#11 ·
simple...I am in my 40s and the same size (size 2 Amerian) since 20 after 3 children above average in height (5"7)...I actually gain muscle very easy though so maybe have leanings towards mesomorph

my whole family are the same....

I scored INTJ to extreme through tests at uni and over a 10 year period scored 4 times over and lived the life of a freakoid occasionally answering questions like this (most of the time not bothering to)
 
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Queen of Leaves:

Everything any human does and gets paid for whether teaching learning disabled children or digging ditches could be labeled "a money making scheme". Go ahead and pay for the MBTI. What is it $30? $40. I haven't seen their latest price. Based on the science which shows the MBTI is a lousy test they ought to pay you to take it. Do your research!

For whatever reason it is clear you don't like the idea of somatotyping. You wouldn't have it done even if someone paid you.
 
#15 ·
No I would do it out of curiosity...and I don't consider things a money making scheme unless it's something I think is completely useless and should be free...or a scam

I already know my MBTI...I don't need to pay for it because i know it...and it's not important anyway...I haven't read many things on it, so show me evidence and then I'll believe it. I mean how two hereditary things such as body type and personality type would travel together...and I'm not an endomorph, I know that...if I'm an endomorph, it's only in between that and another body type
 
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Beth Deth:

Indeed you probably are primarily an ectomorph. If you want to email me your maximum weight at 20 and maximum weight at 40 I would have a better idea of your somatotype.

The Introversion, Thinking, and Judgment functions would be very consistent for an extreme ectomorph. I would seriously question the MBTI results on the N for an extreme ectomorph. However as a person moves closer to a balanced somatotype N could certainly edge out S because of the dichotomous structure of the MBTI.

Somatotype would suggest that you are some kind of combination of the traits described for ISTJ and INTP. Maybe INTJ is a good compromise.

I should also mention that the more extreme(less balanced) the body type (more dominant Endormorph, Mesomorph, Ectomorph) the more consistent they will be on the results of their test. People in the middle areas are more apt to be confused because their body systems are in a battle for dominance. With the extreme types the battle for dominance never starts. They pretty much know their identity.
 
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I'm around the same weight too (I never really weighed myself much)...the lightest I was around 20 was 45 k the heaviest 53k. I'm 51 now which is the usual from the last year.....

The INTJ thing: The I is 100% N 84% T 89% the J 74% (that was taken from the last test) the test at uni was roughly the same but higher in the NTJ....I think the J was 86% then

my mother is an artist and an INTP (tested)
my brother is perhaps INTJ too
father is alien type unknown E type something with naggy tendencies...he is very tall (6'4) with long limbs and thin at 73


I have leanings towards mesomorph, I think, because it only takes a short while to gain muscle (only a week of workout will show a difference if I can be bothered (I have the families body type, which consists of broad shoulders but very thin everything else, I have generally been two sizes larger in tops to accommodate shoulders (Australian size 10-12 top, 6-8 jeans, American size equivalent would be size 4- 6 top to 0-2 jeans maybe)

:confused:
 
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Queenofleaves:

My fee is only to discourage people who aren't really interested. It is a nominal fee (fee in name only) and I am quite willing to evaluate a somatotype free if they provide the results from various personality tests such as MBTI, DISC, Five Factor, SVIB, Cattels 16pf etc. I have a very conventional business "money making scheme" that earns me a good living and has given me considerable time for my intellectual pursuits.

So if you provide a photograph based on the guidlines I have established for the discreet determination of somatotype I will be more than happy to do that for free for anyone who stumbles on this forum.

Also you have given some hints as to what area your body type is likely to be. You say you can put weight on and take it off easily. That would put you in the middle. So you probably are at least a 4 on endomorphy. Your interest in aggressive sports would probably put you in the area of about a 4 to 4.5 in mesomorphy. If you are under 5 feet 5 inches you are probably around a 3 in ectomorphy. Most likely you would be a ENFP (as you report) with some aspects of ESFP. (7 is maximum 1 is minimum 4 is middle)

Rethink this statement of yours "I mean how two hereditary things such as body type and personality type would travel together.." EXACTLY if two things are hereditary they would likely vary together. Animal breeders (race horses, dogs etc.) talk about temperament of breeds all the time. Are humans animals or not?
 
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I was a classic ecto as a child until I started weight training at 15-16 (5ft9, 125lb). Now I'd probably be classified as a meso-ecto at 20 (6ft, 185lbs, 32" waist, 6ft3 armspan, long but muscular legs). I don't have too much difficulty putting on muscle as long as my diet is good nor do have too much difficulty losing weight either if needed, if I don't pay attention to my diet for a while my weight tends to stay roughly the same.
 
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I'd think I'm in between ectomorph and mesomorph, though with a little extra weight. I'd like to think what this diagram illustrates is pretty accurate, though there would be exceptions with weight issues/eating disorders and the likes.

ISTP/ectomorphy is pretty damn accurate, lol.
 
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Bethdeth:

Based on the information you have provided you are probably a 3 in Endomorphy, 1.5 Mesomorphy, 6.5 Ectomorphy (3.5) Equimorphy (Balance).

Women are often surprised at how low they are in mesomorphy. Of the four ratings you are lowest in Mesomorphy. That's your inferior function. So you are likely to avoid aggression preferring instead to let well researched facts speak for you. Equimorphy (balance) correlates with intuition. But even though you are on the low side of intuition it remains your auxiliary function. It appears the INTJ result on your MBTI is pretty accurate.

As I mentioned before the MBTI and other instruments are fairly accurate for people at the extremes. People in the middle get confused and their results change just about every time they retake a personality test.

One of the reasons why somatotype has significant but low correlations with paper and pencil tests is because 60% of the population is in the center where variability and change dominate.
 
#24 ·
Thanks for the info :happy:...You are right about the aggression...I tend to walk away or "smile and wave" unless cornered, which is when I do become ferocious with facts and figures and attitude. Also I have been known to defy in strength despite my apparent size.
 
#38 ·
hahaha thats awesome. you guys dont have a body type. maybe there should be closer examination of total brainj usage. then INTJs will definitely be on the chart. probably the top of the chart. with super muscular brain matter. lol :crazy:
 
#27 ·
Peter:

In reality there are no types at all. There are just clouds of tendencies. Think of it as a pie. Picture a big circle with all the letters of the alphabet scattered over the surface. Now divide the circle into quadrants. Think of each quadrant as a type with the attributes of the letters contained in its boundary. You can cut the pie anyway you want and call each section a type. You can rotate it a few degrees and have different results.

The trouble with Jung's typology and many others is that it's based on an imagined structure not a real structure.

The missing types are the ISFP, INFP, INFJ and INTJ. But they aren't really missing. They are special cases of other types. Compare; ISFP with ESFJ, ENFJ with INFP, ENFP with INFJ and ENTP with INTJ. There is a lot of redundancy there.

Basically, if you want INTJ to be in the mix just kick out ENTP.

INTJ= Original Minds ENTP=Ingenius

INTJ = Great drive for implementing ideas ENTP=Resourceful in solving problems.

INTJ = Quickly see patterns ENTP=Adept at generating conceptual possibilities

finally a difference

INTJ = Organized and decisive ENTP= Bored by routine.

This is just a matter of how you want to sort out traits. Don't get too attached to a bunch of letters.

The value of somatotype is that it deals with real organismic functions - Seeing, thinking, feeling and doing.
 
#28 ·
Yeah I'm familiar with the MBTI. I was just trying to make a little joke as Keirsey calls the INTJ the Mastermind:

INTJ = Mastermind = Brains = No Body Type




I guess I skipped a couple of steps too many ;)
 
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Selene:

Somatotype as Sheldon describes it is constant especially by the time you stop growing. The Heath-Carter somatotype method is based on measuring subcutaneous fat and muscle thickness with skin calipers. The Heath-Carter somatotype reflects the current state of the body.

Sheldon's method is based on Trunk Index which has to do with the relationship of the rib cage and pelvis. Since these are bony structures they remain constant.

If a 300 pound endomorph loses 125 pounds that doesn't change the trunk index which is a figure obtained by dividing the area of the thoracic trunk by the area of the abdominal trunk. An endomorph that has lost their extreme weight won't look like an ectomorph. They will look like an emaciated endomorph.
 
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