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    Sex in Space & Other Interstellar Travel Challenges Revealed

    by Clara Moskowitz, SPACE.com Senior Writer
    Date: 01 October 2011 Time: 07:53 AM ET

    Sex in Space & Other Interstellar Travel Challenges Revealed | 100-Year Starship Symposium & Interstellar Travel to Another Star | Multigenerational Spaceships, Warp Drive, DARPA & NASA | Space.com

    ORLANDO, Fla. — Building a spaceship to visit another star is hard enough, but keeping the humans onboard alive for the ride may be even harder, space experts said Friday (Sept. 30) in a symposium dedicated to interstellar travel.

    A trip to even one of the closest stars would take decades and possibly hundreds of years, likely spanning multiple generations. But scientists aren't even sure humans can procreate safely in the microgravity of space.

    "It is still unknown, if you want kids and you want reproduction, what gravity has to do with successful development," MIT researcher Dan Buckland said here at the 100-Year Starship Symposium, a conference sponsored by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) to discuss technologies and strategies needed for planning a mission to another star. [Gallery: Visions of Future Human Spaceflight]

    So far, humans haven't managed to send a probe beyond even our own solar system, let alone to the nearest star more than 4 light-years away. A light-year, the distance light travels in a single year, is about 6 trillion miles (10 trillion kilometers).

    "The distances to the stars at vast," said biologist Athena Andreadis of the University of Massachusetts Medical School. "Large starships will have to be self-sustainable. We don't have such technology yet."

    Unless scientists can invent a practical method of simulating gravity on a spacecraft, an interstellar journey would be spent in weightlessness. Over time, microgravity ravages the body, decreasing blood volume, atrophying muscles, diminishing bone mineral content and impairing vision.


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    Sex in space and other worries

    The effects on a developing fetus would likely be even more severe, perhaps disrupting normal embryonic development and even neurological functioning. A baby's body and bones may develop differently in weightlessness.

    And then there's birth to think about.

    "Giving birth in zero gravity is going to be hell because gravity helps you" on the ground, Andreadis told SPACE.com. "You rely on the weight of the baby."

    And that's if would-be parents can even get that far.

    "Sex is very difficult in zero gravity, apparently, because you have no traction and you keep bumping against the walls," Andreadis said. "Think about it: you have no friction, you have no resistance."

    Ultimately, even if human babies can successfully be conceived and born in space, multigenerational space travel comes with a host of other difficulties. In addition to the ill-effects of microgravity on the body, people on such a journey could fall prey to disease, and the psychological effects of being stuck onboard a vehicle in the vacuum of space could take their toll.

    "Something will come up that we simply haven't thought about," Andreadis said. "We have to be prepared for casualties."

    Getting there is only half the challenge

    And arriving at the destination — another star, hopefully one with a habitable planet that humans can colonize — doesn't end the difficulties.

    Even habitable planets are unlikely to be identical to Earth, so we will likely have to build an Earth-like biosphere within a dome to live in, or terraform the planet completely. Besides the ethical questions of whether it's right to radically alter another world, and potentially eradicate any microbial life on it, terraforming is a complex technological endeavor. [The Top 10 Star Trek Technologies]

    "Not only are we bad at terraforming, but we don’t have the life span or the attention span to carry it through," Andreadis said. "Terraforming is a failure of the imagination. It's like people who take those expensive trips to Paris and eat at McDonald's."

    A better option may be to genetically engineer people to withstand their newfound environment. Though that, of course, is quite complicated too, and could create a second species of humans that are so different from those back on Earth that the two groups wouldn't even be able to interbreed if they were reunited.

    "We will have to grow up and do self-directed evolution, realizing that what comes out of the other end may not be human," Andreadis said. "If we stake our future among the stars, we must change for the journey and the destination."
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    I read this story, then your signature.... "99 problems but a bitch ain't one" - Gandhi..... and it all fit so nicely.

    Creating gravity is the least of our problems, mostly because our only problem is the resources needed to do real feasibility testing on it. We need to heavily invest in understanding ecology, which we are doing(in somewhat scary ways as well) but it's still far behind our understanding of technology but catching up. But terraforming is still more complicated than simply developing a compatible biosphere, you have all the toxins not just in the atmosphere but stored in rock and dust to deal with as well, that can take millennia even if you develop the right biosphere for just that purpose of breaking down the toxins into non harmful material, if it's even possible. It could be that the only viable option for most planets like Mars for example is to repave the surface to some depth. Or living in a bio-dome and not bother. There is still a lot you can do once you are there.

    It's shame our economy is as bad as it is, because we have the ability to really start digging a foothold in space with the little we do have. It'll exponentially explode from that point once a proper infrastructure is built in space, such as production and the like. I doubt I'll live to see the day.

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    The guy who suggested genetic engineering had the solution for the microgravity problem too: genetic engineering. Engineer people to be able to live in space for generations, and then engineer people suited to the new world on arrival. So in this instance, there would be three (and then later more) human species: the original, the new world, and a space-faring seed species. It's not like interbreeding will ever be a problem, considering it takes generations to travel between worlds, they can't really live on each other's worlds even if they can get there.

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    I'm sorry, I haven't read the thread but I saw the first three words in the title: "Sex in space", and I simply had to post something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie Jesus View Post
    The guy who suggested genetic engineering had the solution for the microgravity problem too: genetic engineering. Engineer people to be able to live in space for generations, and then engineer people suited to the new world on arrival. So in this instance, there would be three (and then later more) human species: the original, the new world, and a space-faring seed species. It's not like interbreeding will ever be a problem, considering it takes generations to travel between worlds, they can't really live on each other's worlds even if they can get there.
    At first I considered that inbreeding might be a problem but then I thought about it. It is only a couple generations, it's not like they're all related right off the bat. But yes, I agree that wouldn't be too much of a concern compared to everything else on the plate.


 

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