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#1 ·
Flat earth go!



This guy explains the theory:



And Exhibit A proof:



So is NASA the devil, astrophysics and astronomy a clever ruse that has been deceiving us this entire time?

Aspiring scientist and those who love science, are you brave enough to face the truth and taste the future?

Thoughts?
 
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#5 ·
supposedly it turns out we have all been deceived by NASA, which is where all that footage was created by, See this stuff, to many flat earthers tie into NWO and Illuminati, a spherical earth is one of their slight of hand tactics. not all flat earthers believe this, but only flat earthers do, and those who don't they still think some from of deception is occurring to the masses.
 
#8 ·
I believe there is a lesson and meaning to this "flat earth" thing. If one is confined to a certain area the Earth does look flat. Locally there are peaks and valleys but on the average it all evens out. If one has never traveled beyond the local it seems a reasonable theory. What people say outside ones' locality is just hearsay. (Reminds me of those in Plato's cave.)

Now anyone outside this locality who is much more experienced and sophisticated might like to convince the local loco locals they are wrong. This is not doable, is it? Aren't we all like this? That is, we fail to believe what is outside our own sphere of knowledge!
 
#89 ·
That is, we fail to believe what is outside our own sphere of knowledge!
Surely you mean our own disc of knowledge?

This is a point which would prove it. But do you know anyone who has flown non stop from point A back around to point A. Even then would they be awake for the whole trip making sure the pilot is flying in a strait path?

All I will say is that I have trusted Nasa for my knowledge, I mean everyone here has been, so how could you (or anyone else?) be so confident that theory is definitely false. I am not a math expert, nor have a flown a path like this, I know the government has lied to me and to the masses previously. I'm open minded, why get so angry at someone else's theory when all you have to rely on is someone who keeps lying to you?

I will still have the impression that it is round, but at the same token I have no evidence to support this claim besides nasa claims and mass belief (word of mouth from almost everyone).
Geography doesn't require global circumnavigation, and astronomy doesn't require space travel. It has been known that the world is spherical long before airplanes and NASA. All the evidence needed to prove Earth's shape can be acquired by observing the sky and the horizon, and anyone can do it with patience. So the "we can't know" argument doesn't hold up for very long.

I actually spent a few months within the official Flat Earth Society online community, and they tend to focus on their own theories to explain evidence rather than the excuse that they can't see the evidence. Light is bending over long distances, they say, the sun and stars and moon are closer than we think and are moving and rearranging themselves in odd patterns, airplane equipment is lying, Antarctica is a myth, and so on. And of course it goes without saying that they think NASA is a government hoax.

However one thing that did trip them up for several weeks was the existence of amateur high-altitude photography (which can now be done very inexpensively). They just couldn't make this fit into their model of the world: It's not part of The Conspiracy because there is no government involvement, the sunset along the curvature of the horizon contradicts their sun model, and it can't be "looking down at a disc" because different vantage points produce different "discs". For a while they tried suggesting that the lens used was distorting the image, until I showed them the camera metadata that was included in the image files and graphically reverse-engineered what little distortion there actually was. When I left, they were still struggling with this one.
 
#14 ·
Anyone who has studied astrophysics/physics knows that bodies tend to minimize the surface area needed to contain a specific volume, which is why planets, water droplets, and bubbles (among many other things) are spherical. To be more specific, for planets and stars, the gravitational potential energy is minimized when they're spheres. Having a flat Earth would go against everything we know about physics.
 
#18 ·
It's already been definitevly (sp?) proven it's round, saying anything otherwise is just silly and in some cases stupid (where you should actually know better [no excuse of ignorance] but don't, then it's stupid).

Hell, this was disproven centuries ago with even less direct evidence/knowledge we have now, so yeah to continue believing this goes passed the state of ignorance and into willful ignorance (aka stupid).
 
#19 ·
While I do believe that everyone could be tricked like this.


You can see that the earth is round by looking at the ocean or the sky.

Also the fact that you can't see forever because the earth curves.



I also just think that the theme of our universe is roundness. lol

Thats why planets are round, and go in circles, and how life is metaphorically round.
 
#30 ·
A co-worker brought all this stuff up, that he was a flat earther etc. I gave him many things to think about. I said do you believe in the planets, he said yes. I said to him, well, if the moon, sun, and other planets are circular shapes that you can distinctively see and not flat domes, why is earth any different? And his eyes got big and he was like, yeah that is a good point. lol. Then I mentioned and why does everything that fall to the surface or atmosphere of earth have a spherical formation, like meteors.... again he didnt know.

Later on I had asked him, how does the moon have phases (if it has its own light, doesn't reflect the light of the sun, and if it is a disk), but he had no answer... and i asked him, why is it hotter in some places and not in others? A spherical earth shows that the earth is not a perfect circle, and at the point of the equator, the earth sticks out more, thus it is closer to the sun.... but if the earth is flat this doesn't exist, so wouldnt every place be the same temperature? Again no answer... I WAS going to mention emission spectrum, as he doesn't believe in galaxy and other planets outside of our solar system, when of course we can see the light emission spectrum of elements of other planets, and we can know what elements make up the planet, and how similar these elements are to our own earth, our sun, our moon, and so forth.
 
#22 ·
Get in a plane....fly in a straight line going forward.

Do you end up falling off the earth (going into space) or instead eventually reach the same point you started from? Sure, given the curvature if you fly perfectly straight in a stricter sense of the word then yeah you go into space, but that's not from the earth being flat, it's from you not following the curvature. Yet, if you go straight but remain on the curve, you will eventually reach your starting point, case closed.

Anybody falling for this flat-earth "theory" is gullible and possibly a fool, sorry if that sounds harsh but you* really should know better.:dry:


*not referring to OP as I understand just bringing this up for entertainment and hasn't made any claims of believing it

**but yet you are still seeming to give it some merit by posting this crap for others to fall for :frustrating:
 
#23 ·
Some people have a vested interest in these theories. What could be their motives? Galileo was put under house arrest for the rest of his life and shown the thumbscrews should he publish his works about how the Earth moves.
 
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#37 ·
Yeah, the ship would've started to appear much smaller before it started to dip below the horizon...in this video it appears to be sinking some and then eventually goes below the horizon later, but even then the video seems off somehow...it's possible I'm looking at it wrong or not thinking of something, but the video does seem "doctored".
 
#38 ·
What prompted me to search for the video in the first place to place here is because I've witnessed this same phenomenon occur several times before.

This happens regardless of the debate on whether or not earth is flat or round because it is observable. You can observe this for yourself at a coastal area if you are willing to wait the time it takes for the ship to go from a point to below the horizon.

Now, whether or not the observation is a mirage or another phenomena, is a different question entirely.
 
#46 ·
Here is one fact for sure.. Not a single person in this thread has been in outer space, yet a whole bunch of you keep talking about evidence.
No before I go on .. I am pretty sure the earth is round.. But I am going on the assertion of someone else and although I cannot fathom why they would lie to me and everyone else, not understanding why people lie has never stopped them from doing so the possibility no matter how unlikely still exists.
This is how faith works.. None of you will ever know for sure if and until you go into outer space what shape the earth is.
But so many are absolute anyway..

I am just trying to show how the "evidence" people claim as proof of something, is actually faith in what someone else is telling them is true.
When it comes to actually possessing evidence.. All you really have is faith.
 
#57 ·
I'm not angry, lol. Just find it kind of stupid to actually believe otherwise. It'd be the same if I were to claim the sky is red, but everybody's sight is deceiving them and scientists just want us to believe what they say about lightwaves so we think they so smart




Sorry some bother to be offended by it, but it's my opinion so therefore I'm completely justified in thinking it's true and telling others.:shocked::laughing:
 
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#62 ·
Ya, does not seem you are angry I didn't mean you ha. Also, thought about the different color thing, it wouldn't surprise me if others saw colors slightly different from myself. Completely different how would I know? Just saying there is nothing wrong with a difference of thought or idea. At least I don't think so, I wish more people would investigate things instead of just being fed them. I mean, theoretically if everyone accepts the accepted beliefs there would be no progressive ideas and such. I'm not asking for you to agree with me either, but its nice to have a talk about an idea without calling each other idiots. You know? No problems here @Roland787
 
#58 ·
@donkeybals does have a point. If one goes by direct experience, we don't know. I have said similar things about how people think they know all about France without having been there. It's just highly LIKELY that France is like what is written, just as it is highly LIKELY, that the earth is round, for many MANY different reasons dealing with the various phenomenon that do occur on earth.
 
#59 ·
Regarding France I can know (for as close to being able to know anything is possible) it exists and has it's own government and citizens, however I can't know as confidently what goes on there, only what I read about what goes on and then the understanding of knowing that different people will have differing opinions on what the things that happen there are like and from different biases and whatnot.
 
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