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    INTP - The Thinkers

    Are ENTJ's really jerks?

    Why would anyway portray the ENTJ as a jerk? Are they really that bossy and assholish? Surely they couldn't be any worst than the ESTJ who has been known to lack an imagination completely and how would you differentiate these 2 exactly? Give me some examples people.


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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Some ENTJs are jerks; some ENTJs aren't. @MNiS seems to be the perfect example of why it's unfair to classify ENTJs as assholes.
    Some ESTJs are jerks; some ESTJs aren't
    Some INTPs are jerks; some INTPs aren't.
    Some INTJs are jerks; some INTJs aren't.
    Some ENTPs are jerks; most of them are funny so can get away with it.
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    Unknown Personality

    Everybody is probably a jerk to someone.

    Asking why is like asking why people hate things.

    Seems to me that most people don't even need a reason, it's basically instinctual.

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    I know an ENTJ who is a pretty big asshole.

    Once my best friend was talking about me with our other friends without me there, and she told them that I don't believe in gravity. He immediately sought me out once class was over and -- instead of asking for clarification (a deadly mistake if you knew my best friend -_-) -- he attacked me. Started hurling a dozen questions my way and mocking my misunderstood beliefs ("if gravity doesn't exist then what is keeping us here, magic? God's will?"). I was confused and got defensive and it took another friend to break us up. Eventually I managed to explain to him that I don't believe Newton and his specific theory of gravity, which he coincidentally enough did not believe in either.

    We get along quite well though, and often partnered up for school projects. That caused problems occasionally though because he would get quite bossy. I would explain to him why the fact he had in our speech was unnecessary and broke the flow, but he ignored all of my comments about it. I eventually gave up trying to persuade him and instead went back that night to revise it myself and printed those instead. He either didn't notice that I changed it or simply didn't care because he never said a thing about it.

    I like him though, and I know he's very fond of me, and we have fun with one another and understand each other. We also make one hell of a team. I really appreciate our comradeship despite his occasionally bossy, pain in the ass attitude.
    Besides, it's not like I have been worse.
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Quote Originally Posted by downsowf View Post
    Some ENTPs are jerks; most of them are funny so can get away with it.
    It just depends on how sensitive you are haha.

    I like ENTJs. Romantic interest? Probably not...

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Yes. ​Ten char

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Quote Originally Posted by Abraxas View Post
    Everybody is probably a jerk to someone.

    Asking why is like asking why people hate things.

    Seems to me that most people don't even need a reason, it's basically instinctual.
    Exactly.


    P.S.
    @ your signature: lmao!!
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    INTP - The Thinkers

    Quote Originally Posted by Abraxas View Post
    Everybody is probably a jerk to someone.

    Asking why is like asking why people hate things.

    Seems to me that most people don't even need a reason, it's basically instinctual.
    Well yeah, that's absolutely true, but when there is a tremendous amount of hate target towards a specific group of people, that's entirely different, and would require a logical(for me anyway)explanation as to why this group, or hell even specific individuals who are hated so much. I ask this simply because I've never encountered an ENTJ( at least i don't think)but the way people describe them, it almost sounds like they are describing a corrupted ESTJ, someone who just want's to impose their will upon others. Even if they are similar, what redeeming qualities does the ENTJ have to separate them from some douchebag ESTJ?

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    Unknown Personality

    Lol, they're not that bad. Just give them candy and they'll behave.
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    INTP - The Thinkers

    Nothing is really instinctual to me, I mean there has to be a reason something is happening or has happened, I'm not gonna hate someone without a reason, usually when people claim they just mindlessly hate something, It's for reasons that they don't even know.


 
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