[adizzy]

Yup.



Yup.

I typically got more out of study groups and class attendance than I did from reading or studying, which I always hated to do if it was assigned. I often would learn by raising my hand and making observations/contributions in class, which ironically gave the impression that I really knew the subject matter.

The problem is that the real world rewards diligence far more than speed or brilliance, which means you have to learn to read every word and become detail oriented when dealing with important documents. In other words, you need to turn the Ne down and develop that J.

Yes yes yes, but don't you mean we need to turn on our S.

[adizzy]

ALWAYS this! If I show up and engage in class, I don't have to study. I can't tell you how much money I've wasted buying a required book only to never crack it open...

Additionally, I've found I learn/retain information best when I tell someone else about it, so if I've just read something interesting, I will try to talk to someone else about it if I liked it and want to explore more.

I can totally relate to this, but how do you stay FOCUSED? I try and my mind wanders with 15-30 seconds. ARRRRR

[adizzy]

Exactly.
If it's boring I just don't bother.
That's probably why my grades are dropping like a brick....

BE CAREFUL. I did this and my undergraduate GPA was 2.7. Now I am looking at grad schools and I am at my wits end. Also, now I choke on big tests (GMAT) because Ive made it into the end all be all.....that's my specific situation...in general if you want to be in the corporate world, details are important....you need to master this skill, please trust me...in our time, for most, its not about big ideas, UNFORTUNATELY. We live in a era where small details matter across the board and most likely that is what will seperate you from others. And if you are a man, and a NT, you are at a disadvantage....the GREAT news is it is something we can fix...the opposite would be a lot tougher. I am researching this on my own time myself.

[possiBri]

I can totally relate to this, but how do you stay FOCUSED? I try and my mind wanders with 15-30 seconds. ARRRRR

Staying engaged in the discussion is KEY for me. I make sure to ask a lot of questions, and offer an explanation back in my own words/with my own examples but as a question, so I can confirm I'm understanding. Also, for me, being at a computer (whether it's bc you use your laptop for notes, or because your class is in a computer lab) while in class seriously affects my ability to focus, so if you do that... I'd stop. Just turn the screen off or don't bring a laptop to class. Also, the act of physically writing notes definitely helps me in the more difficult classes — when I remember things I remember how they looked on the paper and where on the paper I wrote them.

No idea if these methods will work for you, but they are pretty much the staples of my process. Oh, also, I try to take classes that sound super interesting, and if they turn out to be boring, I try to focus on some aspect of it that is the least boring, or try to find some way to relate it to something personally, so I have some sort of association that allows me to recall the information later. =]

Oh, also, if you do decide to study, don't study for more than 30 minutes at a time... and take at least 10 minute breaks between the 30 minute sessions... it works well for homework too!

[SPtheGhost]

i look at the pictures first

[Psychosmurf]

I'll read as much as I can before I get bored, which in this thread was maybe the first three posts, then decide whether the subject is interesting enough to keep reading.

[Polo]

I am similar to this when it comes to studying or anything that isn't for pure enjoyment, like reading YA fiction... some of that stuff in intense!

As far as forum-type discussion goes, I usually scan for the thread of the conversation (hence the name :P) and also I want to make sure I have something new to add. The discussion can build better - and depending on the subject matter, maybe the participants can reach an answer to their question or solve a problem.

When I am reading for selfish pleasure, I get really lost in a story. My first instinct is to jump around and scan the pages. I've ruined a good plot twist or character death (read: Dumbledore) by doing this. I also read pretty fast, so this is just magnified.


Now, if I'm in the middle of an intense scene and I think something big might happen, I cover up the opposite page with my hand(s), and force myself to read it straight through.

Occasionally, I'll listen to some kind of instrumental music during my study time. I also give myself breaks where my mind is allowed to wander.

[Vilen]

With my eyes, duh...

No, not that. When I read something, especially on forums, I don't bother reading everything. I hop from phrase to phrase and get a general idea of what its about. Then I get a spark of how I could continue with a post of mine.

Similar deal with study. I read the first line of each parragraph, get an idea of what its about and whats important and then go read whats *really* necesary (key equations, or definitions, etc). I wing a lot of things, but not blindly.

What about the rest of you xNTx?

My eyes go rapidfire over the text and i stop when something catches my attention.. if then the whole seems interesting enough based on a couple of fragments, i'll read ALL of it.

BTW, are you an ESFJ or an NT of sorts?

[Hyphen]

My eyes go rapidfire over the text and i stop when something catches my attention.. if then the whole seems interesting enough based on a couple of fragments, i'll read ALL of it.

BTW, are you an ESFJ or an NT of sorts?

[freeeekyyy]

Depends. If I see a pattern and know what people are likely saying, I'll skip it or skim it. If it's new information to me, I read every word and think hard to make sure I understand it perfectly.