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The Complicated Nature of NT Rationals Explained to Normal People.

In the day and age where everyone wants to be classified in some personality type, there exists an especially obscure type sitting in the oddest most abstract of corners, the NT Rational. Attempting to understand these rare abstract thinkers – the computer programmer, physicist, mathematician, philosopher – is like trying to study the mating rituals of three-toed sloths at your local zoo. The following is a linear analysis to give ourselves the deepest possible understanding of these eccentric characters.

Generally, determining if you have this temperament type is easily shown by answering this question:

You walk into a room and see a picture hanging crooked. You…

A. Straighten it.
B. Ignore it.
C. Ponder the situation’s metaphoric symbolism on the humanitarian situation in Syria, then write a poem about it.
D. Buy a CAD system and spend the next six months designing a solar-powered, self-adjusting picture frame while often stating aloud your belief that the inventor of the nail was a total moron.

The correct answer is "D" but partial credit can be given to anybody who writes "it depends" in the margin of the test or who simply blames the whole stupid thing on "marketing".

A = Guardian
B = Artisan
C = Idealist
D = Rational

SOCIAL SKILLS

NTs have different objectives when it comes to social interaction. "Normal" people expect to accomplish several unrealistic things from social interaction:

* Stimulating and thought provoking conversation;
* Important social contacts;
* A feeling of connectedness with other humans.

In contrast to "normal" people, NTs have rational objectives for social interactions:

* Get it over with as soon as possible;
* Avoid getting invited to something unpleasant;
* Demonstrate mental superiority and mastery of all subjects.

FASCINATION WITH GADGETS

To the NT, all matter in the universe can be placed into one of two categories:
(1) things that need to be fixed, and
(2) things that will need to be fixed after you’ve had a few minutes to play with them.
NTs like to solve problems. If there are no problems handily available, they will create their own. "Normal" people don’t understand this concept, they believe that if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. NTs believe that if it ain’t broke, it doesn’t have enough features yet.
No NT looks at a TV remote control without wondering what it would take to turn it into a stun gun. No NT can take a shower without wondering if some sort of Teflon coating would make showering unnecessary. To the NT, the world is a toy box full of sub-optimized and feature-poor toys.

FASHION AND APPEARANCE

Clothes are the lowest priority for an NT, assuming the basic thresholds for temperature and decency have been satisfied. If no appendages are freezing or sticking together, and no genitalia or mammary glands are swinging around in plain view, then the objective of clothing has been met.

DATING

Dating is never easy for NTs. A "normal" person will employ various indirect and duplicitous methods to create a false impression of attractiveness. NTs are incapable of placing appearance above function.
Fortunately, NTs have an ace in the hole. They are widely recognised as superior marriage material: intelligent, dependable, honest, handy around the house and not the least bit overbearing. While it’s true that most "normal" people would prefer not to date an NT, most normal people harbour an intense desire to mate with them, thus producing Bill Gates-like children who will have high-paying jobs long before losing their virginity.
Male NTs reach their peak of sexual attractiveness later than most "normal" men, becoming irresistible erotic dynamos in their mid-thirties to late forties. Just look at these examples of sexually irresistible NT males:

* Bill Gates
* MacGyver
Female NTs become irresistible at the age of consent and remain that way until about thirty minutes after their clinical death. Longer if it’s a warm day.

HONESTY

NTs are always honest in matters of technology and human relationships. That’s why it’s a good idea to keep NTs away from customers, romantic interests and other people who can’t handle the truth. NTs sometimes bend the truth to avoid work. They say things that sound like lies but technically are not because nobody could be expected to believe them. The complete list of NT lies is stated below:
"I won’t change anything without asking you first."
"I’ll return your hard-to-find object/device tomorrow."
"I have to have new equipment to do my job/research."
"I’m not jealous of your new computer."
"I know exactly what I am doing/talking about."

FRUGALITY

NTs are notoriously frugal. This is not because of cheapness or mean spirit; it is simply because every spending situation is simply a problem in efficiency, that is, "How can I escape this situation while retaining the greatest amount of cash?" and also, "How can I achieve maximal results from minimal work?"

POWERS OF CONCENTRATION

If there is one trait that best defines an NT, it is the ability to concentrate on one subject to the complete exclusion of everything else in the environment.
This sometimes causes NTs to be pronounced dead prematurely. Some funeral homes in high tech areas have started checking resumes before processing the bodies. Anybody with a B.Sc. or experience in computer programming is propped up in a lounge for a few days just to see if he or she snaps out of it.

RISKS AND JOBS

NTs are most strongly drawn to the scientist, mathematician, philosopher, inventor, thinking-researcher type jobs. Therefore, NTs hate risk. They try to eliminate it whenever they can. This is understandable, given that when an NT researcher/scientist makes a mistake, the media will treat it like it’s a big deal or something.
Examples of Bad Press for NT Scientist/Researchers:

* Hindenburg
* Challenger
* SPANet™
* Hubble Space Telescope
* Apollo 13
* Titanic
* Ford Pinto
The risk/reward calculation for NT scientists looks something like this:
RISK: Public humiliation and the death of thousands of innocent people.
REWARD: A certificate of appreciation in a handsome plastic frame.
Being pragmatic people, NTs mathematically evaluate this balance of risks and rewards and decide that risk is not a good thing. The best way to avoid risk is by advising that any activity is technically impossible for reasons that are far too complicated to explain. If that approach is not sufficient to halt a project, then the NT will fall back to a second line of defense: "It’s technically possible but it will cost too much."

EGO

Ego-wise, two things are important to NTs:

* How smart they are;
* How many cool devices they own.
The fastest way to get an NT to solve a problem is to declare that the problem is unsolvable. No NT can walk away from an unsolvable problem until it’s solved. No illness or distraction is sufficient to get the NT off the case. These types of challenges quickly become personal – a battle between the NT and the laws of nature.
NTs will go without food and hygiene for days to solve a problem (other times just because they forgot). And when they succeed in solving the problem they will experience an ego rush that is better than sex – and we’re including the kind of sex where other people are involved. Nothing is more threatening to the NT than the suggestion that somebody else has more technical skill. "Normal" people sometimes use that knowledge as a lever to extract more work from the NT. When an NT says that something can’t be done (a code phrase that means it’s not fun to do), some clever "normal" people have learned to glance at the NT with a look of compassion and pity, and say something along these lines: "I’ll ask Bob
to figure it out. He knows how to solve difficult problems."
At that point it is a good idea for the "normal" person to not stand between the NT and the problem. The NT will set upon the problem like a starved chihuahua on a pork chop.

- B.J.H., INTP Architect Rational, originally from The Nature of Scientists.
I giggled profusely.
 
#2 ·
That is amusing.

I picked "C" on the crooked picture quiz, so I am definitely not an NT. It sounds like a healthy NT would be an interesting creature to study. I've only met a few nice ones in real life, and two out of three of those are family members.
 
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If one were to go by the crooked picture question, I'd be an SP. But yeah, we're quite the intriguing specimen. :tongue:

One thing that definitely rings true for me is the part about unsolvable problems. I am attracted to theoretical physics and the Millennium problems in math just for that reason.
Another way to tell if you're dealing with NTs:


Another NT lie?
 
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If one were to go by the crooked picture question, I'd be an SP. But yeah, we're quite the intriguing specimen. :tongue:

One thing that definitely rings true for me is the part about unsolvable problems. I am attracted to theoretical physics and the Millennium problems in math just for that reason.
Another way to tell if you're dealing with NTs:


Another NT lie?

:crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:
 
#5 ·
"NTs hate risk"

This person is a idiot.... ENTPs love risk. This is more like INTPs to normal people, and I've met better INTPs then this. One being Night. I'll have to write a "Explaining ENTPs to normal people" essay.
 
#10 ·
I don't think NTs hate risk either. At times, my father calls me predictable . I tell him that I like waiting for ideal circumstances.

But back to the risk thing. I am getting friendlier with it..... after apprehensively approaching some risks and come out having gained, what feels like, the world.
 
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haha im with you, night. B all the way.

That guy was definitely just writing from an INTx perspective... but it had enough truth in it to make me chuckle a few times. That comic absolutely cracked me up, though.
 
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Am I the only person here who actually agrees with the not-taking-risks thing? Yeesh...

I answered A for the question, but that's because I'm obsessive-compulsive and don't have enough faith in my mechanical skills to try to invent anything.

I love that comic. I swear it's me and my brother. :D
 
#20 ·
He likes to stare at your breasts?
 
#21 ·
"NTs like to solve problems. If there are no problems handily available, they will create their own. "Normal" people don’t understand this concept, they believe that if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. NTs believe that if it ain’t broke, it doesn’t have enough features yet."

I've considered deliberately breaking stuff when I was bored at work just so I'd have something challenging to do (fixing the broken stuff).

"NTs are always honest in matters of technology and human relationships. That’s why it’s a good idea to keep NTs away from customers, romantic interests and other people who can’t handle the truth"

Also, I knew it was a bad idea for me to be dealing with customer complaints. Too many customers are just idiots who won't admit when they're wrong.
 
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Thanks Night :laughing:
 
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I got fired from a telemarketer job because I was abusive to morons. I was giving people deals on Cisco equipment/telephone deals where the Cisco equipment came free, and they were damn good deals. I wasn't much better at first level tech support in an internet cafe either. I knew the stuff, I just wasn't nice.

Similarly I've considered breaking things. Only it was the system I wanted to break.
 
#27 ·
God, that guide was so utterly and incredibly useful. Thank you so much! :)

I finally understand what to do with all the NTs around. I have to present problems to them like my physics teacher does:

"Problem: The inability to keep losing weight and periodically stimulating the tastebuds of the mouth in a highly positive manner.

Solve. Problem insofar deemed as unsolvable.

Reward for solving: Very high potential social and financial gains."
 
#28 ·
I liked your house cleaning plot too :crazy:

bob can do it :tongue:
 
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Haha, I just used it at my Dutch friend :D He was talking about how his desk is so messy.

Me:

"Problem: Mess at the desk!

Solve. Time limit 10 minutes."


Him: "Ah, not now, silly! I'll do it later after work..."

Me: "Oh, I see. Well...I'll ask Bob to do it then. He's very good at difficult problems."

Him: "Screw you with a ten-foot pole!"

:D
 
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Bob is my Hero. :blushed:
 
#32 ·
Bob wants to clean my desk and sort my filing cabinet? Okay...
 
#33 ·
Problem: Efficiency of hunting down all nearby and potentially nearby Bobs when related to cleaning up the place by yourself.

Solve. Also explain how you can functionally apply the answer to real-life situations.

:tongue:
 
#35 ·
I took your crooked picture test: B I would ignore it, correlates w/ being artist type, which I am.

Your description seems right on the money. It's a very different way of being, which I can and will do as needed. You clarify much. And it reaffirms that personality is core/"hardwire" and maybe even innate way of being for people.
 
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