I've been all over the country. I love Madison, WI. I keep coming back.
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I've been all over the country. I love Madison, WI. I keep coming back.
Fuck NY. The people are so self-absorbed. I've lived here all my life and I hate the people. I don't get why others come here "to make something of themselves". This place is only going to eat you up and spit you out if you don't have a pair of brave balls and a thinking cap on. We don't give a fuck how pretty you are, where you came from, or if your great-aunt died last night. It's about what you can do for me and how quickly you can do it. Other than that, breakwide. Also, I hate tourists even more. They're slow, always in your way, and they just don't fucking understand that you gotta be swift if you're getting off the subway. This ain't rocket science.
I wouldn't suggest NY for NTs unless you like high and tough competition filled with selfishness, greed, and criticism. People will not think twice about cutting you down for who you are. So be prepared to be tough skinned and know where you stand as a person.
With that.... I'd rather live in Seattle or Newport, Rhode Island.
I live in FL; I don't know much else, but I really like my city compared to others in my state. If I didn't like in southern FL, I'd probable live in southern CA, just because of the weather and beaches. My city's beaches are some of the best in the world and the city is one of the most affluent in the state. Everyone respects each other here and are generally amiable.
The town south of it is worthy of mentioning because it's the oldest, as far as people, per capita than any other in the US. Driving there is utter craziness because old people drive really slow and have no situational awareness what so ever. (That was supposed to be more humorous, but leave it to an NT to ruin good joke material.) I would not recommend living there if you're under the age of 60, but it's nice if you want to find a place to finally die ;). (Now, I think that was somewhat humorous, since I don't think any NT doesn't appreciate that type of humor.)
Two places that I want to go to is NYC and Colorado. I want to visit the city where my ancestors have lived for 300 years and I want to snowboard on the infamous powder peaks. I've only been snowing boarding once, but I picked it up quick and loved it from the first run, which was an exciting bunny slope! ;) Unfortunately, The whole mountain deteriorated into an icicle by the second day. On one wipe out, I slid 100 ft and just had to sit there for a while thinking about what it would be like to not snow board on concrete. At least I can dominate and appreciate the powder for its various magical properties when I get to go on some real mountains.
I also want to go to Europe, but the others are more realistic goals to achieve in my adolescence.
Cheap and low-crime. I vote Appalachia. With the advent of the Internet, we can access the information resources we need without traipising to a big-city library. So anywhere low-crime, basically, and inexpensive (gives us more time to study and think rather than work some grindy gig) is good. For me.
For the love of all things good and sacred, if you're an "intellectual", stay out of small towns in the South.
Michigan is a terrible place for Intuitives, and it is even worse if you are an NF.
We are very cynical here, and there is very little talk about improving Michigan, or changing. Things are done because "it's how they have always been done", so when you start questioning you become outcast-ed and not very enjoyable. Look at the economy here: our sole income was based on automotive and never changed, now we are in a hole because people don't need new cars every 5 mins.
People only care about right now, because right now is fucking hard on everyone. The future is a joke, and our schooling suffers: Who cares about academics when you're 16 with a child on the way?
I can only take solace in two things (pertaining to being an NT here):
1. There are so many Ts here, and that is always nice.
2. NTs are real here, we don't have super haughty people. Any NT you find here is the real deal.
2. New Mexico
Although I would have to say that I wouldn't want to live in some of these states.
I was doing a personal project where I was trying to figure out what were really the top 10 cities in America a couple months ago and I think I should add my findings to this thread.
THE PROBLEM: The list of cities by population is extremely flawed because some cities simply have larger physical boundaries and most people who call a major city their home actually don't live in its city limits. This brought me to consider the metro area population, which is a very good source, yet doesn't fully account for how important the city is economically. Finally, I decided there is no way one person could realistically value the economic importance, size and potential of each city, so I took a different approach.
MY METHODOLOGY: I looked at Vault and found the top 8 investment banks and top 4 consulting firms in the US. I chose these numbers of firms because it is about where the two rankings have similar scores and stops just short of firms with dozens of offices and leaves me with a dozen firms that average about a dozen offices each. The reason the location of these offices is such a good indicator of how valuable a city really is is because these industries need a large economy with a combination of established economic influence or potential to consider opening an office in any given location.
MY FINDINGS: The results showed a very definite pattern. Exactly 10 cities had an office of at least half of the companies and there was a 2 office gap after these 10. It turns out the top 10 according to my methodology is almost identical to the top 10 according to metro area population minus Miami and plus San Francisco:
1. New York (12/12)
1. San Francisco (12/12)
1. Houston (12/12)
1. Los Angeles (12/12)
5. Chicago (11/12)
6. Dallas (10/12)
6. Boston (10/12)
6. Atlanta (10/12)
9. Washington DC (8/12)
10. Philadelphia (6/12)
I know this doesn't guarantee the culture will agree with an NT (and it certainly will not overall in most of these places) but it does mean there are a lot of opportunities for an NT's favorite careers and there will always be pockets of NT wherever you go. Despite it's lack of personality information, this list should certainly interest an NT simply because a rational person would live somewhere for something as objective as a career first and foremost.
It would be nice, and relevant to the thread, if anyone has any experience, to share how NT-friendly they think these 10 metro areas are.
For example, I have spent time in San Francisco and Houston and must say that Houston is definitely more NT-friendly with career-minded individuals who, while dreaming big or being practical, usually seem to be objective, whereas San Franciscans tend to be largely driven by emotionally charged and subjective motives. I suspect Dallas may actually be the best for NT's of these, but I have spent very limited time there personally and am only going based on what I know from several friends who grew up there. It also seems to be a great place for raising a family, but not the best for being a yuppie, and I would like to yup it up for as long as possible.