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This is a discussion on NTs On A Team within the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects forums, part of the Keirsey Temperament Forums category; INTJs that posted on this thread seem unsatisfied with their description....

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    INTP - The Thinkers

    INTJs that posted on this thread seem unsatisfied with their description.


  2. #22
    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Quote Originally Posted by David Lee View Post
    INTJs that posted on this thread seem unsatisfied with their description.
    Unhappy INTJ's? Who'da thunk?

  3. #23
    INTJ - The Scientists

    Thanks for this. It was an enjoyable read. I agree with most of it except where noted below

    INTJ On A Team

    How INTJs Deal with Conflict
    When interpersonal conflict occurs, they will usually withdraw or move on. Theywant discussions to be calm and reasoned, and highly charged interactions oftenleave them feeling in complete doubt about what’s happening. Relationships witheven occasional improvement will be continued, but if they see no progress theywill give up, learn from the experience, and move on. When a conflict of visionoccurs, they can be stubborn about their own point of view and forge ahead.

    ^^INTJ’s don’t usually withdraw in a conflict. They are too convinced that their solution is best and will defend it to the hilt. Highly charged situations will leave them drained and thinking that they might be wasting their time. If there is no progress they will not continue the relationship. “Give up” is not really a part of our lexicon.


    To Forge Better Relationships with INTJs…
    Provide a team environment that honors their strong need for autonomy anddemonstrates respect for individual thoughts and feelings, ideas, and creativity. Provide opportunities for constantevaluation to meet their need for high achievement and competency. Put them ina situation where they can devise and implement long-range strategies aimed atefficient and effective use of the organization’s resources.

    ^^Um about feelings – we really don’t care much about this and would prefer if people kept it out of the team dynamics.



    How INTJs Make Decisions
    They tend to make strategic decisions rather quickly as they compare newinformation to their vision. They can react in a very passionate way to theselect principles or activities they find important. Concrete, logisticaldecisions often frustrate them or go unmade. They tend to critique the processused to think about a problem rather than focusing on the problem itself or thespecifics. They may present several options for action, each with its own prosand cons and each thought through to its ultimate consequences.
    ^^Agree with much of thisLogistics are left to others. We will critique the process for addressing a problem but often don’t really care much about the problem itself. Our reward is in producing a workable solution.
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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Many of the criticisms brought up by my fellow INTJs are fair, but the descriptions offered are pretty spot on. As someone who participates in a team dynamic every day, that's pretty accurate.

    The main thing that has been brought up, or at least that stuck with me, is INTJs and argument. I don't withdraw from any argument if I believe I'm right, assuming the argument is worth the time and effort. My dad is an INTJ, and according to my stepmother, he avoids confrontation and conflict.

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    I'm surrounded by idiots. This isn't a gang war. If you can't think of a way to be useful I'll mesh you into a cogwheel. A team is strong as its cohessive synchronization.

    If there were competitions... Well, I doubt NTs would be able to stick to one form. hahaha that would make it more fun.
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    ENTJ - The Executives

    Re: INTJ and conflict: it may be situationally dependent. INTJ husband and friends are my materials for observation. If you attack their theories (tested hypotheses) they won't back down. And, get ready for a nice long fight (yah!). If you attack them emotionally or on a topic they don't care about, they don't see the point or want to expend the energy unless it's truly worthwhile to fight back. Or, if you're so dead wrong that there's no hope for you, they walk away, not scared but just not caring.
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Well its pretty obvious that INTJs are highly misunderstood.

    I love working with them. They're confident, and very open to new ideas and concepts. They've got a way of getting lost in the layering and explaining of things (Ni + Te) which gives you an impression that they are linear and one-sided. But they're not, they're invested. Such is the essence of a J -- consistency. The Ne + Ni combination is tremendously powerful in harmony. As dominant irrationals, I do not agree that they are necessarily always siding with the most logical of answers, rather, something more grandiose and complexly stimulating. Branched frameworks can be the workings of analyzing logic (Ti/Te), or synthesized by bits of logic (Ni/Ne), which act as a mere quality control center. The fact that thinking is an auxiliary to the latter types implies that logic is still necessary to conclude.
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    INFP - The Idealists


    MBTI with its NT superheros nonsense, those aren't the true flaws of those types

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    INTJs in my humble opinion, rock. Put an ENTP and INTJ together and you've just defined awesome. Oh and ENTJs too. We are evil together, mwaha. But INTPs, where art thou?
    ;-;
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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Yeah, we wonder why none of us has taken over the world, it's because we're all so argumentative. The more of us together, the greater the odds for conflict. That said, if you can get a few of us to actually work together...muahaha!

    A couple people think we INTJs are being stuck up with the problems we find in the OP. Come one, read through it, it's acting like we have to be handled with kid gloves as if we're going to fall apart! Some parts do indicate problems we have, but seriously, if you manage to get us on a team, we're way better than that!


 
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