[Pr0metheus]

Here is an interesting thought exercise to engage in:

How exactly did NTs function in pre-historic societies. Let's imagine a neolithic culture (9000-5000 BC) in the Near East or Southern Europe that is semi-nomadic but settles into small villages during optimum climate conditions throughout the year and has some limited knowledge of raising crops and domesticating animals.



In these societies, the social configuration was often far more communal than anything most of us are accustomed to these days. Because of this, groupthink largely dictated how decisions were arrived at. People who came across and deviants, smartasses or weirdos were probably not tolerated too well. Did they keep quiet, do their duty and live a miserable humdrum life following all the clan customs to the letter or were these maybe the first people to become travelers and adventurers who would embark on epic journeys to other settled societies and subsequently become the first traders and merchants? Or were these NTs among the first charlatan prophets, seers and oracles who used their abilities to bamboozle the less intuitive into believing their wild stories of supernatural epic melodrama? (Maybe the latter group were the pre-historic NFs...who knows really)

Finally, let's ponder the life of the NT who likely was the one who first invented the wheel.

[A Little Bit of Cheeze]

We were the ones making the first stone calculators... and iStones....

[Pr0metheus]

...and we were probably having constant pissing contests with the ISTPs on who could craft the best stone arrowheads and axe blades.

[Juan M]

NFs = Prophets
SPs = Hunters
SJs = Tradicionalistics.
NTs = Cranky old person who criticize everything and blame everyone.

[gingertonic]

The NT's were probably the ones that saw crude stone tools and thought "man, fuck this shit. we can do better"

[Elyasis]

ENTJ= Tribe Leader (Obvious)
ENTP= Tool maker/designer
INTP= Same as above?
INTJ= Either second in command/dead/travelling hermit/ or in charge of own group.

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Based on this... I'd say N wasn't even a thing until a certain point in our development as a species. I'd say it went something like this SP>SJ>NT>NF. Functions= Se>Fi>Ti>Si>Fe>Te>Ne>Ni. /Conjecture/

[gingertonic]

ENTJ= Tribe Leader (Obvious)
ENTP= Tool maker/designer
INTP= Same as above?
INTJ= Either second in command/dead/travelling hermit/ or in charge of own group.

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Based on this... I'd say N wasn't even a thing until a certain point in our development as a species. I'd say it went something like this SP>SJ>NT>NF. Functions= Se>Fi>Ti>Si>Fe>Te>Ne>Ni. /Conjecture/

Seems more like Si>Se>Te>Fi>Ti>Fe>Ni>Ne.

Sensory input, followed by objective decision making, then some ego decision making, empathy, deep insight, and infinite possibilities.

[Elyasis]

Seems more like Si>Se>Te>Fi>Ti>Fe>Ni>Ne.

Sensory input, followed by objective decision making, then some ego decision making, empathy, deep insight, and infinite possibilities.

I went with Se first because it's more about present sensation (Fi (want) or Ti(fear) decisions). Which is valued more in hunter/gatherer. Forming tight knit groups would require Si and Fe. Warfare/Group against other group is very Te. Then Ne for innovation and Ni for prediction.

ESFP/ESTP(Gatherers/Hunters)>ESFJ(Caretaking/Denmothers)>ISTP/ISFP(artisans/crafts)>ESTJ(war plans/protection)>ENFP/ENTP(leaps of reasoning/storytellers)>INTP/INFP(redefining ethics/reason)>ENFJ/INFJ/ENTJ/INTJ(NFJ seer of human truths/NTJ future planning)

[gingertonic]

I went with Se first because it's more about present sensation (Fi (want) or Ti(fear) decisions). Which is valued more in hunter/gatherer. Forming tight knit groups would require Si and Fe. Warfare/Group against other group is very Te. Then Ne for innovation and Ni for prediction.

ESFP/ESTP(Gatherers/Hunters)>ESFJ(Caretaking/Denmothers)>ISTP/ISFP(artisans/crafts)>ESTJ(war plans/protection)>ENFP/ENTP(leaps of reasoning/storytellers)>INTP/INFP(redefining ethics/reason)>ENFJ/INFJ/ENTJ/INTJ(NFJ seer of human truths/NTJ future planning)

I think I'd have to reorganize my order. I think Si, Se, Fe, and Te were all very necessary in tribal hunter-gathering societies. Si and Fe seem to make sense when you consider the power that blood ties had.

[Boolean11]

Seems more like Si>Se>Te>Fi>Ti>Fe>Ni>Ne.

Sensory input, followed by objective decision making, then some ego decision making, empathy, deep insight, and infinite possibilities.

I think I'd have to reorganize my order. I think Si, Se, Fe, and Te were all very necessary in tribal hunter-gathering societies. Si and Fe seem to make sense when you consider the power that blood ties had.

Si (Ne) > Se (Ni)
The whole reason I'd argue that Si was preferred over Se is because tried and tested ideas were cherished more so than learning from experience each and every time (Se). My assumption for this is based on how there are more SJs (Si) than SPs (Se), which I assume is the archaic representation of the past. I'm not being typist really but I'd reckon the refusal to try new experiences unless forced to by circumstances something that is more Si than Se. Se people seem like there are less likely to do the exact same thing twice unless their judgement functions forces them to do so. Again I'm not trying to insult Si for their suggested rigidness since on the bright side, they have a have good library of tried and tested models, whilst Se types go with a rough guide since they always focus on being in touch with the present as it is.

Te (Fi) > Ti (Fe) MALES: Fe (Ti) > Fi (Te) FEMALES
Whilst on the contrary and in general, thinking is preferred over feeling in males (either Ti or Te); in other words more males are xSTx on average. So leading from my essential assumption I'd reckon Te was preferred over Ti just as Si is preferred over Se. The reason for this is that to be a thinker, if you've got Si you'd get Te and with Se, Ti. That pair up makes sense since most Si and Se males are thinkers (reason below). Plus since there are more extroverts than introverts the representation of Si males would have been done by ESTJs whilst the equivalent Se males would have been ESTPs.

I'm basing my statistics over celebrity types estimates which indicate that there are more Si than Se and males are generally thinkers whilst females feelers. Plus also from general life experience where I've noticed that there are slightly more Si than Se people.
Famous ESTPs - CelebrityTypes.com
Famous ESTJs - CelebrityTypes.com
(see the page bottom for statistics)


@gingertonic I don't agree that Ni was favored over Ne and that Ti was under appreciated. There are a lot of ESTP males you know (their numbers aren't far behind ESTJ males, its more like:
ESTJ:16%male and ESTP12.5%male)