In-battle function analysis

[εmptε]

I believe it would be interesting to see a Ne and Ni fight it out. I believe that would be that only true way of knowing what will happen, because if the Ne sees the path and the Ni sees the answer. Then the Ne could easily change part of the path to get to a different answer, and the Ni would see that answer and then back and forth back and forth. That would be one hell of a battle.

To answer your other question. No I don't believe it's the functions you choose to show. I believe you are born with dominate functions, sometimes borderline dominate, but you can strengthen all your functions.

[Marco Antonio]

It would surely be interesting.
Once i was thinking about how Jung understood there had to be a mix of introverted-extroverted functions to achieve a congruential typology. How would it be to have something like a primary Te supported by both Ni and Ne?

Oh right, i believe your preferences depend most absolutely to the way you are raised. It's not you have been born with a Totally Ti personality... I know your primary function develops while being a child. But when you are that young you don't really have so much insight to understand how you are behaving.
So you will deliver to the world a solution to be safe and content. Normally you choose this by noticing how your parents and friends react towards your actions. This really depends on how much you interact with them.

I remember the day when i first noticed my internal dialogue going on. I was 2 or 3 years old and suddenly i became aware of time. I know how before it i had experienced everything as if it had just happened. I was very intrigued and confused, i was asking myself what was that thing that would show me through "images" in my mind other things that had happened. Later on i would call it memory

[εmptε]

I agree with that, my dad is a ESTP and I'm sure he has taught and strengthened my Se.

[NephilimAzrael]

My sensei is INTP.
I have not lost a sparring match to him in 7 years [super cereal!].
What does that say about the matter?

[Marco Antonio]

Originally Posted by NephilimAzrael

My sensei is INTP.
I have not lost a sparring match to him in 7 years [super cereal!].
What does that say about the matter?

That Ni rules!

[εmptε]

Originally Posted by NephilimAzrael

My sensei is INTP.
I have not lost a sparring match to him in 7 years [super cereal!].
What does that say about the matter?

That you're using Se ... or that you should find a new stronger sensei.

[NephilimAzrael]

Originally Posted by Lykos

That you're using Se ... or that you should find a new stronger sensei.

Are you that desperate for to denounce Ni.. Tell me how you think it was primary Se rather than Ni.
He is a great sensei having trained to achieve san-kyu. He just doesn't beat me that is all. As for competitions. I have only lost once.
He is of an aptitude and level that any respectable sensei may be at.

Why assume so much. I have met with some reputable international champions in sparring. I have been beaten by them a fair few times. They are however more well trained than I.

One on one is ok by Se even easier in Ni. Multiple opponents is where I consider to be the greatest benefit of a clear minded Ni. It does require a sense of the attacks directed towards oneself in rapid succession. Multiple opponents not always being in line of vision. It takes an extraction from oneself and knowing your capabilities as well as the capabilities of the others. Ne put out trials to gauge such. Ni, infers the data from the naturally occurring evidence. That is where the confusion occurs regarding Ni. When descriptions state that it takes a person out of the room to invent action, it is more accurately portrayed as being taken out of mind all together. Just letting things come without resistance. Inspirational.

It is worth considering how Se-Ne are related in this spectra. Se feeds off the concrete outside context. Ne does so with inferences and gradual manipulation.Likewise the extension of Si-Ni. Si takes in the information into storage and comparison. Ni works with more context than that and assimilates the variants and information in massive quantities, processing it exceptionally fast..

[εmptε]

Originally Posted by NephilimAzrael

Are you that desperate for to denounce Ni.. Tell me how you think it was primary Se rather than Ni.

Being this is basically what that post was about I'll just quote this. I didn't say it was primary I just said you were using Se probably in accordance with Ni. One function is a good basis to start a fight but then it will evolve into combo functions, and then the strength of all your functions. You can't just say "Ni is unstoppable" thats not how it works.

Okay I have a awesome metaphor. Think of MBTI as a game of Rock Paper Scissors. Jung describe that no type is any better than any another type and they are all equal. This would be the same for Functions correct? However, lets say that when he meant equal he meant something along the lines of "Rock can beat Scissors but it can't beat Paper where Scissors can" Each type or Function has something that can beat it.

Understand my little INTJ?

[NephilimAzrael]

Originally Posted by Lykos

You can't just say "Ni is unstoppable" thats not how it works.

Your posts just tripped up on this. I do not claim in all facets Ni is unstoppable. But rather it is more effective in combat than the others. Whatever claims to bias or ego you may wish to make. You are still going fo Ne to be best, remember.

Regardless of your latter concealments using combos. We are here to discuss what is most useful.

[εmptε]

Originally Posted by NephilimAzrael

Your posts just tripped up on this. I do not claim in all facets Ni is unstoppable. But rather it is more effective in combat than the others. Whatever claims to bias or ego you may wish to make. You are still going fo Ne to be best, remember.

Regardless of your latter concealments using combos. We are here to discuss what is most useful.

I never claimed that you did I was just summing up all the words you put into a single phrase.

Actually I voted Ti was the best? I also believe Se could be on par with Ne dependent upon how strong it is. I believe Ne is on par with Ni depending on how strong it is, and etc. Everything has something that can beat it. I don't believe Ni would be the strongest in a street fight. Yes, I agree that it would be useful to know what the opponent is thinking, but you can do the same thing with Ne, and Se would also be strong against both Ni and Ne.

I just pulled a ENTP and changed my stance on the argument without changing my stance.