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This is a discussion on The glass is..? The NF / Idealists answer is... within the NF's Temperament Forum- The Dreamers forums, part of the Keirsey Temperament Forums category; My response: "guys, it's half full AND half empty, so let's make the best of half a glass of water" ...

  1. #11
    INFP - The Idealists

    My response: "guys, it's half full AND half empty, so let's make the best of half a glass of water"

    No idea what a typical NF response would be...




  2. #12
    INFJ - The Protectors

    Half full, always. No matter how bad things are, no matter how much I piss and whinge, the glass is always half full.

    My optimism annoys even myself at times.

    "The world is ending!"

    "... yeaaaah but a lot of good will come out of this - you'll see!"
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  3. #13
    INFP - The Idealists

    It doesn't have to be neither, in fact, why is the water going stale in the glass when it could be drunken, watered or used in some kind of recipe?



  4. #14
    Unknown Personality


    Quote Originally Posted by Femmefatale View Post
    It doesn't have to be neither, in fact, why is the water going stale in the glass when it could be drunken, watered or used in some kind of recipe?
    How else could the chicken cross the road?
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  5. #15
    INFJ - The Protectors

    4 oz. full, maybe?

    realism accounts for both the truths in optimism and the truths in pessimism. both 'half full' (optimism) and 'half empty' (pessimism) are true...i can see both because that is reality.

    you could just ask the waitress for a refill.



  6. #16
    INFP - The Idealists

    Quote Originally Posted by cactus_waltz View Post
    How else could the chicken cross the road?
    I'd suggest getting a circus canon and give it ago :)



  7. #17
    Unknown Personality

    But what are the chances of coming across a glass that is exactly half full/empty? There's probably going to be a little more or less that you can't see but is probably measurable.
    Also it depends on a combination of how thirsty i am and what is in the glass. If i need dehydrating after coming back from a run, half a cup of water is probably going to seem not enough, not because I'm pessimistic but because the reality of the situation is that i'm really thirsty.

    ...what i'm trying to say is that there are always too many variables that my answer would probably change from situation to situation, glass to glass. But i guess if this hypothetical half-filled glass of water (impossibly) existed in a vacuum, I'm going to go with half-full, probably because of the same reason as Murnando .



  8. #18
    INTJ - The Scientists

    The glass is...

    SJ / Guardian response:
    - The glass is half empty, gone before you know it…
    - The glass is half empty, let's save it for a rainy day…

    SP / Artisan response:
    - The glass is half full, room to fill it up…
    - The glass is half full, let's enjoy it while we can…

    NF / Idealist response:
    - more then enough to share it with somebody...

    NT / Rational response:
    - it depends how you look at it...



  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa.tuti View Post
    @Murnando ...sounds like an NT response;-)
    Quote Originally Posted by Papa.tuti View Post
    @Bumblyjack ...that sounds like a true NF answer, almost optimistic too;-)
    Wait, so the fact that I answered logically means I answered like a thinker rather than a feeler, and bumblyjack answered unscientifically, so his answer was more feeler rather than thinker? I hate to break it to you, but that's just a negative stereotype. It's like saying that intuitives are smarter than sensors, it's a commonly said thing by many but it just flatly isn't true, just as it isn't true that NF types need to be airy fairy with their answers whereas the NTs answer logically and mathematically.

    I'm not angry at you, or trying to start an argument, but the sheer amount of bias and misunderstanding with MBTI is stereotypical, almost always false and very misleading for newcomers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa.tuti View Post
    The glass is...

    SJ / Guardian response:
    - The glass is half empty, gone before you know it…
    - The glass is half empty, let's save it for a rainy day…

    SP / Artisan response:
    - The glass is half full, room to fill it up…
    - The glass is half full, let's enjoy it while we can…

    NF / Idealist response:
    - more then enough to share it with somebody...

    NT / Rational response:
    - it depends how you look at it...
    Again, why are the NTs here the only type that have a logical and thoughtful response? Why is the NF response so stupid? Type has no correlation with intelligence, and I am no less likely than you to think about the question with a bit of thoughtfulness just because I am I feeler. I am also no more likely to give a stupid happy clappy, childish answer like "enough to share it with everybody" just because I'm a feeler.
    Again, I'm not trying to be confrontational, but these are very negative stereotypes you're reinforcing.



  10. #20
    INTJ - The Scientists

    @Murnando ...I like you're comments! and that's the purpose of these forums isn't it, to have some discussion and to learn some; 2 know more than 1 (most times anyway;-).

    I see you're offended by some things I said or implied, and that was not the intention, at all!
    And I'm not reinforcing anything!! :-))

    Of course by definition, stereotype is wrong!! We are with 7 billion happy souls here, all unique, all different...but looking from a distance there are roughly 4 kinds of people. Of course NF / Idealists can be very smart and logical, and I wouldn't be surprised if some are smarter and more intelligent then NT / Rational...indeed temperament has little to do with intelligence as in IQ. But I do think our viewpoints are different in many ways, and the glass dilemma is just a funny way showing that, that's all, there's nothing more to it!

    Btw, the reason that you and many others fill in questionnaires like MBTI and show it, by definition is a way of stereotyping!?!
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