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This is a discussion on NFs in the Workforce within the NF's Temperament Forum- The Dreamers forums, part of the Keirsey Temperament Forums category; Originally Posted by walkawaysun09 I am a hard worker, though I despise trying to find a job...specifically, one I know ...

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    ENFJ - The Givers

    Quote Originally Posted by walkawaysun09 View Post
    I am a hard worker, though I despise trying to find a job...specifically, one I know I won't be appreciated at/happy with. I seek out and need approval more than anything...as one of the hardest workers I know, it's hard for me to understand why employers and fellow employees will just treat you like you aren't anything special or to be valued...even if you do their share of the work because they are getting lazy/missed a spot/whatever.

    Seriously...it's why I want to be a teacher, well one of the reasons, I won't have to put up with that kind of "underappreciation" because the people who I am working for (the students I teach) will basically have two options, you can stay and learn and try your best, or you can stay home and fail/drop out of my class. Because I will hold them to a pretty high standard of attendance and work ethic (even if it'd just be lit/English classes).

    Honestly...when I was in High School, I got docked hours, for no reason at all (other than the lead manager who did schedules still hating my spermdonor for marrying her daughter), so I had to always pick up hours (which were always in abundance thanks to everyone else not wanting theirs). And I remember picking up a double-shift of a total of 13 hours...and the boss that day (the one who was the 2nd in command to the one that hated me for no reason) Didn't really want to give me any additional breaks, so I wound up with only getting 45 mins worth of time for breaks (cuz they docked me down to 15 min lunch) in 13 hours...and I still pulled more weight than the other baggers, who just stood around and looked dumb (as usual). I think I didn't pick up a shift for a few weeks after that...and basically told everyone off, to their faces, about how lazy they all were...I wasn't liked for my honesty.
    I was thinking of teaching as well, but i love positiions of leadership and power more.
    this is why ENFJs thrive in leadership positions, so people cant walk all over us, i love managing because my bosses know ima hard worker, and i like to ensure everyone is just as hardworking as i am, so i like to remind people of things to do, and they have no choice but to follow it, come on, I got puppy dogs eyes! it works XD

    and i had a boss that hates me for no reason too! i cant type that cunt, but i have tried every method to get her to like me, but none of my ENFJness seems to be getting through to her. she got promoted to district manager, and i took her spot as general manager, hoping this would gain her respect which it didnt, and since i quit that job, i cant even go back to visit cuz she banished me.



    but its my fault, after my failed attempts at getting her to like me, i switched over to my evil side, and made it my goal to make her misserable, so i would always question her authority, get under her skin, annoy her purposefully, talk back to her in front of everyone (and this is a woman everyone hated and feared) and my friends would always be like "are you crazy?! your gonna get fired!!" but i knew i wouldnt, i was to valuable as an employee.

    but Harrdworking pays off! and thats what matters!

    Quote Originally Posted by Razvan View Post
    Well, you know what works best for you, I mean, on one side, you are definitely rushing now, that you need to have a job, but you also don't have my problem, I do lack motivation for change and this kind of attitude (that you are displaying) does wonders. I do have a logical mind, sometimes I even wonder how come I'm not a T. I have a raw mindpower which I refuse to use, I don't know what I do it, but I analyze everything a lot and introversion helps me to do that too. On the other hand....ok I just got lsot in my train of thoughts and forgot what I was saying, see I analyse so much, I get lost into it. Point is, you did good, I wish I could be a little more determined, I've always played it safe (with jobs) and while I never got burned I also didn't real do something I really, truly enjoyed.
    i know!!! DAMN MY BOSS THAT I HATE, he asked if I could stay til the end of July and i said YES!!!!!
    idk why i said yes but i did... ugh....
    WHY ME!!! i was so excited for 8 more days of misery, now it went up to 1 month and 2 weeks.....
    damn! i should have come up with a better excuse then what i said, i told him i had school. ugh.
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    INFP - The Idealists

    Quote Originally Posted by Kalifornia310 View Post
    i know!!! DAMN MY BOSS THAT I HATE, he asked if I could stay til the end of July and i said YES!!!!!
    idk why i said yes but i did... ugh....
    WHY ME!!! i was so excited for 8 more days of misery, now it went up to 1 month and 2 weeks.....
    damn! i should have come up with a better excuse then what i said, i told him i had school. ugh.

    Hehehe, can't say no, now can you, I think it's a bit typical for ENFJs, trying to please, it's the F and the E, look at the bright side, you will have time to plan things better, check out jobs, figure out your future path and taking the necessary steps to it while also having a source of income and not being pressured into something you may not want just so to earn money. And after July, if this doesn't work, you'll still have the pressure you love that will get you moving if you cannot get moving till than.

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    ENFJ - The Givers

    Quote Originally Posted by Razvan View Post
    Hehehe, can't say no, now can you, I think it's a bit typical for ENFJs, trying to please, it's the F and the E, look at the bright side, you will have time to plan things better, check out jobs, figure out your future path and taking the necessary steps to it while also having a source of income and not being pressured into something you may not want just so to earn money. And after July, if this doesn't work, you'll still have the pressure you love that will get you moving if you cannot get moving till than.
    damn you and your valid assurances. :)
    but something you are failing to see is my complete misery that i will deal with, its not worth it, im trying to think of a way to get out from it! yes!!!!


    i just cant stand idiots that make more money then me.
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    INFJ - The Protectors

    My strong advice would be to not leave a job before securing a new one. I made this mistake and boy, did I pay the price. I was just hired this week! I cannot believe how long it took me to find employment. Back in 2006, I was hired at the first meeting. This new company seems like a great fit and I'm going to learn a lot. Learning is my number one goal, how many skills that fit together can I acquire during the course of my life. It is not about the money for me. I once accepted a position for money (and an ex-boyfriend...but that's another story) and it did not work out well for me. I cannot sacrifice my happiness and mental health for a career. It does bother me when I read about the "helping" professionals struggling financially and those getting passed over for promotions and raises because of their different approaches to people, situations, and ultimately, life.
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    INFP - The Idealists

    Quote Originally Posted by Kalifornia310 View Post
    damn you and your valid assurances. :)
    but something you are failing to see is my complete misery that i will deal with, its not worth it, im trying to think of a way to get out from it! yes!!!!

    i just cant stand idiots that make more money then me.
    Well, I can relate to that too, I wouldn't like it either if I had bosses like that and you do what you think it's best for you, was just pointing out there are positive things too, not just negative ones.

    Oh and we have alot of idiots making more money than 90% of the population and still stealing more....they're called politicians and I hate them all (well almost all, I know 1 or 2 that are honest, but the rest are thieves and nothing less). I get to see that everyday and cannot change a damn thing, because you acn choose to vote socialist thieves, liberal thieves or democrat thieves. So..I learned to get used to it and not let it get to me that much anymore. In fact their stupidity and the way they steal is one of the reasons my country is in deep shit right now, not that far from how Hungary or Greece are. And I could go on with other examples, but this is the most relevant.

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    ENFJ - The Givers

    Quote Originally Posted by infj123 View Post
    My strong advice would be to not leave a job before securing a new one. I made this mistake and boy, did I pay the price. I was just hired this week! I cannot believe how long it took me to find employment. Back in 2006, I was hired at the first meeting. This new company seems like a great fit and I'm going to learn a lot. Learning is my number one goal, how many skills that fit together can I acquire during the course of my life. It is not about the money for me. I once accepted a position for money (and an ex-boyfriend...but that's another story) and it did not work out well for me. I cannot sacrifice my happiness and mental health for a career. It does bother me when I read about the "helping" professionals struggling financially and those getting passed over for promotions and raises because of their different approaches to people, situations, and ultimately, life.
    noted! they begged me to stay! so im staying, i just want to be needed is all. and i got a raise out of it!

    and i have learned my lesson, cuz when i put my two weeks notice in, i had freakout moments of "omg what am i gonna do now" lol.

    yay for holding the power in the office!

    Quote Originally Posted by Razvan View Post
    Well, I can relate to that too, I wouldn't like it either if I had bosses like that and you do what you think it's best for you, was just pointing out there are positive things too, not just negative ones.

    Oh and we have alot of idiots making more money than 90% of the population and still stealing more....they're called politicians and I hate them all (well almost all, I know 1 or 2 that are honest, but the rest are thieves and nothing less). I get to see that everyday and cannot change a damn thing, because you acn choose to vote socialist thieves, liberal thieves or democrat thieves. So..I learned to get used to it and not let it get to me that much anymore. In fact their stupidity and the way they steal is one of the reasons my country is in deep shit right now, not that far from how Hungary or Greece are. And I could go on with other examples, but this is the most relevant.
    yeah ! thanks for the positive vibes. i hate politicians too! seriously like who the fuck do they think they are! i wish i had money for a plane ticket, cuz i would fly to our capitol and beat the shit out of some greedy ass people... you know what! i think we should do that

    we should all at one time just buy tickets to our capitols and go find a politician and jump them and beat the shit out of them! lol. then! it can go back to the politicians fearing the people instead of the other way around!!!

    my ideas are so awesome!
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