[Eleventeenth]

I was watching Good Will Hunting today. Great movie. This scene jumped out at me as a plausible example of Ti overanalysis (Will) dialoguing with Fe/Ni (Skylar):


Skylar's Room
SKYLAR You awake?
WILL No.
SKYLAR Yes you are. Will, come to California with me.
WILL What?
SKYLAR I want you to come to California with me.
WILL Are you sure about that?
SKYLAR Oh yeah.
WILL Yeah, but how do you know?
SKYLAR I dunno. I just know.
WILL Yeah, but h--how do you know?
SKYLAR I know because I feel it.
WILL Because that's a really serious thing to say.
SKYLAR But, I know.
WILL You could be in California next week and, you know, you might find out something about me you don't like and, you know, maybe you'll wish you hadn't said that and then, you know, it's such a serious thing that you can't take it back and now I'm stuck in California with someone who doesn't really want to be with me who just wishes they had a takeback.
SKYLAR A what? What's a takeback? I don't want a takeback. I just want you to come to California with me.
WILL Well, I can't go to California with you.
SKYLAR Why not?
WILL Well, one, because I--I got a job here, and two, because I live here.
SKYLAR Look, um..If you don't love me, you should tell me because it's such a--
WILL I'm not saying I don't love you.
SKYLAR Then why? Why won't you come? What are you so scared of?
WILL What am I so scared of?
SKYLAR Well, what aren't you scared of? You live in this safe little world where no one challenges you and you're scared shitless to do anything else but defend yourself because that would mean you'd hafta' change.
WILL Oh no. Don't, don't, don't tell me about my world. Don't tell me about my world! I mean you just wanna have you fling with like the guy from the other side of town. Then you're going to go off to Stanford, you're going to marry some rich prick who your parents will approve of and just sit around with the other trust fund babies and talk about how you went slumming too, once.
SKYLAR Why are you saying this? What is your obsession with this money? My father died when I was 13 and I inherited this money. Nearly every day I wake up, and I wish that I could give it back, that I would give it back in a second if it meant I could have one more day with him, but I can't and that's my life and I deal with it. So don't put your shit on me, when you're the one that's afraid. WILL I'm afraid? Wha--wha--what am I afraid of, huh? What the fuck am I afraid of?
SKYLAR You're afraid of me. You're afraid that I won't love you back. And you know what? I'm afraid too. Fuck it. I want to give it a shot and at least I'm honest with you.
WILL I'm not honest with you?
SKYLAR No, what about your twelve brothers?
WILL All right.
SKYLAR No. You're not going. You're not leaving.
WILL What do you want to know? What? That I don't have twelve brothers?
SKYLAR Yes.
WILL That I'm a fuckin' orphan!
SKYLAR Yeah
WILL No, you don't wanna hear that!
SKYLAR I didn't know that.
WILL No, you don't wanna hear that.
SKYLAR I didn't know it.
WILL You don't wanna hear that I had fuckin' cigarettes put out on me when I was a little kid. SKYLAR Oh...I didn't know that...
WILL That this isn't fuckin' surgery, that the motherfucker stabbed me. You don't wanna hear that shit, Skylar.
SKYLAR I do wanna hear it.
WILL Don't tell me you want to hear that shit!
SKYLAR I want to hear it because I want to help you. Because I want to--
WILL Help me! What the fuck? What I got a fucking sign on my back? That says "save me?"
SKYLAR No.
WILL Do I look like I need that?
SKYLAR No. God, I just want to be with you because I love you!
WILL Don't bullshit me. Don't bullshit me. Don't you fuckin' bullshit me!
SKYLAR I love you. I wanna hear you say that you don't love me. Because if you say that, then I won't call you, and I won't be in your life...
WILL I don't love you.



Later:
Phone Booth and Skylar's Room
WILL I just wanted to, you know, uh...call you up uh...before you left. Um..I've been takin' all these uh..job interviews and stuff, so..I'm not going to be just a construction worker.
SKYLAR Well, you know, I never really cared about that.
WILL Yeah.
SKYLAR I love you.....Will?
WILL (pause) Take care.
SKYLAR Bye.

[benr3600]

I agree that Will is a Ti-dom, most likely an INTP because his emotional outbursts like this seem to be heavy with Ne, not to mention the extreme amount of curiosity with his reading and obviously the complex mathematical problems at the school.

That said, it's also very clear from this that he has an attachment disorder, hence his therapy with Sean. He didn't have any use for uppity therapists who could try to give him "accurate empathy" and use conventional tactics of breaking through, he needed somebody who understood more or less exactly what he's been through, exactly how he sees the world, etc. if anything, somebody for him to relate to.

Seems sort of consistent with the Ti-Si loop as explained here: Dominant-Tertiary Loops and Common Personality Disorders He is content with his group of friends because they really have no means to threaten him...but making a deep emotional connection, with a woman for example, reminds him too much of the anguish of being an abused foster child.

About Skylar, I really think she is as good an example of a healthy ENFJ as there is in cinematic history, at least that I know of.

[Eleventeenth]

I agree that Will is a Ti-dom, most likely an INTP because his emotional outbursts like this seem to be heavy with Ne, not to mention the extreme amount of curiosity with his reading and obviously the complex mathematical problems at the school.

That said, it's also very clear from this that he has an attachment disorder, hence his therapy with Sean. He didn't have any use for uppity therapists who could try to give him "accurate empathy" and use conventional tactics of breaking through, he needed somebody who understood more or less exactly what he's been through, exactly how he sees the world, etc. if anything, somebody for him to relate to.

Seems sort of consistent with the Ti-Si loop as explained here: Dominant-Tertiary Loops and Common Personality Disorders He is content with his group of friends because they really have no means to threaten him...but making a deep emotional connection, with a woman for example, reminds him too much of the anguish of being an abused foster child.

About Skylar, I really think she is as good an example of a healthy ENFJ as there is in cinematic history, at least that I know of.

Oh yeah, there's no doubt that his character has some issues to work through...and those issues color the scene that I posted. But, you also do see a lot of the Ti "analysis" (along with attachment disorders) when he says things like, "Well, how do you know that we're right for each other? What makes you so sure?" He's wanting to break down and analyze her thought process so that he can understand what it consists of. His statements in this scene are a mixture of someone with a severe attachment disorder along with Ti analysis.

Edit: And notice how she can't really explain her reasoning. She just simply says, "I just know". Ni/Fe or Fe/Ni. Often times you'll hear Ni'ers say that Ni is hard to verbalize...but they just "know".