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This is a discussion on MBTI and AD(H)D within the Myers Briggs Forum forums, part of the Personality Type Forums category; I think that xNxP's are most likely to have AD(H)D because of their inclination to 'think outside the box' and ...

  1. #61
    INFP - The Idealists

    I think that xNxP's are most likely to have AD(H)D because of their inclination to 'think outside the box' and because their mind can wander much more than others.

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  2. #62
    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorDreamer View Post
    I think that xNxP's are most likely to have AD(H)D because of their inclination to 'think outside the box' and because their mind can wander much more than others.
    I agree about the diagnosis of Ne users. But I'm not sure if I agree that the result of a healthy cognitive function is a legitimate cause of a disorder. I honestly believe Ne users are significantly more likely than other types to be misdiagnosed with it. Somebody posted a video of a doctor going on about how it is essentially a disorder that doesn't allow one to think ahead, in the future, and properly use information they should have readily available, and it seems to pretty much sum up an anti-thesis of the Ne cog function.
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  3. #63
    Unknown Personality

    Do you have ADHD? No, but I've considered it (you should just see how much stuff I"ve considered and looked into LOL).
    Obviously no need to answer the second or third question
    MBTI type is rather confusing, it's INFP/ISFP (flip flops, like the rest of my dang personality I BLAME THE PISCES/ARIES!!!!!!).

    Wanted to answer, so there you go :)

    Totally forgot to share my opinion of the theory (or whatever). I think some personality types are more likely to present as ADHD, but that doesn't necessarily mean they actually have the disorder as it's just the way they function (did two papers on that actually). So basically I think the disorder may be wrongfully overdiagnosed
    Last edited by Amarose; 05-25-2012 at 10:47 PM. Reason: To add my opinion
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  4. #64
    Unknown Personality

    I had been diagnosed as ADD/Inattentive as a pre-teen, but a few years later was also tested extensively by a neuropsychologist that was strongly of the opinion that I was just bored out of my mind and should have been put in college at 12. Sadly, I was forced to remain with my peer group, which did not go so well... I've maintained my diagnosis of my own volition (because really, can't we be diagnosed as anything we choose to be? It's easy enough..) because a prescription was necessary for me to be able to concentrate on repetitive tasks. My psychiatrist prescribed it "as needed." I have a hard time organizing (the physical world only, not scheduling and future plans...) and have practically no sense of time without some kind of stimulant assistance, but am working on establishing a skill set that enables me to avoid medication entirely, and have had enough success to continue the journey unaided by pharmaceuticals.

    In essence: I am also of the opinion that I do not fit the standard AD/HD profile, but sometimes need medication to do things that "ought" to seem like second nature in this SJ culture. Adderall helps me with the "S" side of life.

    I am probably an INFP (have also tested as INTJ - consistently as a teenager, INFJ, INTP, ENFP... ISFP has been suggested due to certain talents, but I have always tested 100% N, and identify with the intuitive mindset). Enneagram 4w5?, if that has any bearing on the matter.
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  5. #65
    INFP - The Idealists

    I have ADD.
    Been diagnosed 3 times by three different docs.
    I have purely just the Inattentive subtype.
    Been prescribed Ritalin. It actually works, does what its supposed to do without too much zombification. It does slow my brain down and lift my mood, make it easier for me to focus and relate to others.
    MBTI: INFP
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  6. #66
    INFJ - The Protectors


    Quote Originally Posted by benr3600 View Post
    I agree about the diagnosis of Ne users. But I'm not sure if I agree that the result of a healthy cognitive function is a legitimate cause of a disorder. I honestly believe Ne users are significantly more likely than other types to be misdiagnosed with it. Somebody posted a video of a doctor going on about how it is essentially a disorder that doesn't allow one to think ahead, in the future, and properly use information they should have readily available, and it seems to pretty much sum up an anti-thesis of the Ne cog function.
    Yes, well it's impairing frontal lobe, but ADHD gives the person problems upholding structure and planning, compared to Autism that also affects the frontal lobe, has problems coping if a structure/planning is not followed through. xNxP more likely to have ADHD? Well on here it is that way, because it's the single largest group on here, while for example out beloved ISTJ Queen @Owfin for example is an SJ with ADD. If ADHD truly is connected to MBTI function intuition, then she should essentially be immune to it and have Autism instead. But that's not the case, because ADHD is a disorder that defies personality types.

    It's the same in the Enneagram theory, ADHD can be applicable to any MBTI/Enneagram combination, because having problems following through with structure would say never make an STJ Enneagram 1 (just an example) not either STJ or 1, having Si and/or perfectionist tendencies from E1 is highly possible to combine with lower activity in the frontal lobe. Suggesting otherwise is simply just nonsensical.


    (Disclaimer to @Owfin : I hope that me using you as an opposite example of Ne doesn't bother you, if it does I'll happily delete my post.)
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  7. #67
    INTJ - The Scientists

    I'm not sure where your argument stems from, since the only thing I discussed in my post is the misdiagnosis of ADD based on false positives resulting from cognitive functions. I stand by my belief that a very significant percentage of children diagnosed with attention-deficit disorders are misdiagnosed, and until somebody can present a cogent argument against the postulation that some types are more likely to be misdiagnosed than others, I will hold that belief.

  8. #68
    INFP - The Idealists

    Do you have AD(H)D? Yes, but not the hyperactive variant.
    DX ed? Not yet, working on it. Its not yet as 'popular' in my country as it is in the US
    MBTI? INFP

    The views on whether its a disorder are very mixed. I strongly believe there is a spectrum from not severe at all to very severe. Part of the DSM criteria for diagnosis is that it has to be an impairment so that means that perhaps many people may be subclinical ADDers in addition to those who are officially diagnosed.

    Another complicating factor is the prevalence of comorbidities. Its very rare for ADD to travel alone. Usually its accompanied by anxieties, OCD, mood disorders, dyswhateveria or even different kinds of Tourettes.

    So if you ask random ADDers whether they think its a disorder you are likely to get an overwhelming yes as the answer. For me this is less clear. There is no question that I have suffered huge impairment in my life because of it. Still, I do not subscribe to the view of AD(H)D as a disorder but I rather think its a difference.

    There is a reason we are here. I think there are always small natural variations within the genetic makeup of a population that enhance evolutionary adaptability and I believe AD(H)D is one of those variations. Dont forget BTW that the true percentage of ADDers is most likely a whole lot less than the one in four I have seen mentioned here. The last true estimate I saw was more like 5%

    There are a great many other conditions that mimic AD(H)D ranging all the way from hyperthyroidism and diabetes to mood disorders. This can sometimes lead to an incorrect diagnosis being made. Conversely, the presence of comorbidities with AD(H)D can lead to being misdiagnosed with something else instead of the true problem.
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  9. #69
    INFJ - The Protectors


    Quote Originally Posted by benr3600 View Post
    I'm not sure where your argument stems from, since the only thing I discussed in my post is the misdiagnosis of ADD based on false positives resulting from cognitive functions. I stand by my belief that a very significant percentage of children diagnosed with attention-deficit disorders are misdiagnosed, and until somebody can present a cogent argument against the postulation that some types are more likely to be misdiagnosed than others, I will hold that belief.
    Now, why is your premise that a "significant amount" are misdiagnosed?

  10. #70
    ENFP - The Inspirers

    I just had a thought... @Owfin, feel free to laugh in my face, but do you think it's possible that you are ISTJ while on medication, but perhaps a Ne Dom/aux user when not on it? Maybe because of your wild Ne, you were diagnosed and the medication keeps your Ne in check, making you more ISTJ? I'm aware that this might sound totally ridiculous, haha!
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