[Inguz]

PTypes - Correspondence of PTypes, Keirsey, Enneagram, Psychiatric, and Astrological Types

Oh wow, Clyclothymic Personality Disorder feels spot on for me personally. Never heard of it before.

[Staffan]

I don't see how anyone can discount the possibility of a correlation when there are loads of studies that have found correlations between normal personality and psychiatric conditions. What the correlation means is a different matter but its existence is well documented with various measures of personality.

I've always thought of mental illness in general as a matter of extreme personalities. Psychiatrists spent a lot of time looking for the organic failure of mental patients and when they couldn't find any they resorted to talking about "chemical imbalance" instead of injury and disorder. It's hard to come up with a definition of these disorders that keeps them distinct from personality. Words like "extreme" or "maladaptive" are just a matter of quantity, not quality.

[Existentialismz]

I don't really believe this.

I've dealt with a few different INFPs, one was actually a lot like me and we got along famously.

The others always expected you to know when you had offended them and became angry if you didn't. Visibly angry and pouty and would give me the silent treatment until I figured out what I had done. Couldn't they just talk to me about it? I've found that ENFPs often do.

Sorry, I don't think being an introvert erases the possibility of attention-seeking behavior at all. Es do it in a different way, when Is do out they claim they don't want attention or are misunderstood, but how is it not the same thing?

Because a person is not energized by being around others all the time doesn't mean they would never seek attention or manipulate.

Umm...where in my post did I ever say attention-seeking was related to extroversion?

I'm not basing this purlely off of real-life experience. I am correlating the disorder with the MBTI theory, and if you read most INFP descriptions, you will see that it clearly states INFPs don't want attention drawn to themselves.

In my experience, ENFPs and INFJs are the types who have shown the highest need for attention. I personally do desire attention probably more than average. I need affirmation to feel confident in myself and that's all I look for. But I don't put it on display. I don't passively ask for attention.

Some INFPs might, but any personality type has the capability of having attention-seeking behavior.

[OMG WTF BRO]

Umm...where in my post did I ever say attention-seeking was related to extroversion?

I'm not basing this purlely off of real-life experience. I am correlating the disorder with the MBTI theory, and if you read most INFP descriptions, you will see that it clearly states INFPs don't want attention drawn to themselves.

In my experience, ENFPs and INFJs are the types who have shown the highest need for attention. I personally do desire attention probably more than average. I need affirmation to feel confident in myself and that's all I look for. But I don't put it on display. I don't passively ask for attention.

Some INFPs might, but any personality type has the capability of having attention-seeking behavior.

I know it says that in the description but I still don't believe it.

I'm sorry though, I really did think you were applying this to all introverts. Something they can be guilty of IMO.

But I didn't realize you just meant INFPs =X

To be fair the drama queens I dealt with could have been INFJs, one said she was INFP but she never seemed like a perceiver to me anyway.

[MrShatter]

@nathdep

I'm really getting tired of these threads.
MBTI and mental illness do not correlate.
End of story.

BUM BUM BUM

Dominant-Tertiary Loops and Common Personality Disorders

You guys, should remember, the guy, who invented, all this,... stuff, Jung (I think his name was) only worked with, psychologically unhealthy, patients!

[paper lilies]

Oh wow, Clyclothymic Personality Disorder feels spot on for me personally. Never heard of it before.

I have made it clear that I am not participating in this thread any longer.
To those who have quoted me, I am not going to reply.

In any case, Inguz, Cyclothymia is not a personality disorder.
It's a mild form of Bipolar Disorder, categorized under "mood disorder".
This disorder is on Axis I. Personality disorders are on Axis II.

[Inguz]

I have made it clear that I am not participating in this thread any longer.
To those who have quoted me, I am not going to reply.

In any case, Inguz, Cyclothymia is not a personality disorder.
It's a mild form of Bipolar Disorder, categorized under "mood disorder".
This disorder is on Axis I. Personality disorders are on Axis II.

Oh sorry, I didn't mean to imply that it's even remotely accurate for any other ISFP than me. And thanks, that would make sense that it's not on the same axis. I should study it a bit more in depth.

[paper lilies]

Oh sorry, I didn't mean to imply that it's even remotely accurate for any other ISFP than me. And thanks, that would make sense that it's not on the same axis. I should study it a bit more in depth.

I didn't think that's what you were doing!

I was just informing you that it's not a personality disorder at all.
The links and information in this thread are very misleading in my opinion.
Especially now that I know they're presenting some Axis I disorders as Axis II disorders.

[Carmine Ermine]

Dominant-Tertiary Loops and Common Personality Disorders

That article was interesting - I could either be a strongly espressed ESTP with ESTJ tendencies or actually a seriously disturbed ESFP or ENTJ (since Se+Te are probably my most used functions).

I have been recently diagnosed with autism. I think disorders may show more acutely in certain strongly expressing personality types such as autism showing most clearly in XSTP types. Although I've been told several times that personality stuff is totally irrelevant for me because of the autism. It's very interesting what my results are, even the function results seem to be a perfect mixture of ESTP and ESTJ (Se-Te-Ti-Si-Ne-Fe-Fi-Ni) - although sometimes the positions of Ne and Te swap. Way too many extraverted functions, and yet I get left out a lot at events for being "weird".

As Ti is my most developed introverted function though, I've started getting into introspection and self-help (as well as getting outside help for the condition).

[MrShatter]

That article was interesting - I could either be a strongly espressed ESTP with ESTJ tendencies or actually a seriously disturbed ESFP or ENTJ (since Se+Te are probably my most used functions).

I have been recently diagnosed with autism. I think disorders may show more acutely in certain strongly expressing personality types such as autism showing most clearly in XSTP types. Although I've been told several times that personality stuff is totally irrelevant for me because of the autism. It's very interesting what my results are, even the function results seem to be a perfect mixture of ESTP and ESTJ (Se-Te-Ti-Si-Ne-Fe-Fi-Ni) - although sometimes the positions of Ne and Te swap. Way too many extraverted functions, and yet I get left out a lot at events for being "weird".

As Ti is my most developed introverted function though, I've started getting into introspection and self-help (as well as getting outside help for the condition).

MBTI was created for psychologically healthy people, but I don't think autism disqualifies you. I have an autistic friend who fits comfortably into his MBTI type. I've heard that IxTPs tend to show certain characteristics of autism. And if you're confident in your Enneagram 5 type - that doesn't help you socially either