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This is a discussion on Relationship of the Functions within the Myers Briggs Forum forums, part of the Personality Type Forums category; Here is my view of the relationship of the functions: Thinking and Feeling: I believe that any chain of logic, ...

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Relationship of the Functions

    Here is my view of the relationship of the functions:

    Thinking and Feeling:
    I believe that any chain of logic, however long, that a decision is based on, if followed back, starts with at least one emotional value. Emotions set the goals. Logic decides how to reach them.

    Thinkers assign these emotional values subconsciously, then consciously go through a chain of logic. The chain of logic can go far enough away from the original emotional values that it gives the illusion of pure logic.

    To see how this works, take any decision you have made. Why did you decide that way? Now take that motivation. Why did you want that? Keep following it back far enough and you will get to something emotionally based.

    Feelers consciously feel emotional values, then go through a subconscious, and shorter, chain of logic to assign emotional values to other things.


    iNtuition and Sensing:
    iNtuition and sensing have a relationship similar to that of thinking and feeling. All chains of intuition start with a sensory input of some sort.



    iNtuitives subconsciously take in a bit of sensory input, then consciously go through a chain of intuition. The chain of intuition can take such big leaps and get so far from the original sensory input, that it becomes totally unrelated. This can give the illusion of pure intuition.

    There have been a number of times where I, as an intuitive, have been thinking about some random topic and thought to myself "How did I get on that topic?" Unfailingly, when I trace my thought process back, I get to a sensory input.

    Sensors consciously take in sensory input, then follow a subconscious, and shorter, chain of intuition.
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    INTP - The Thinkers


    Quote Originally Posted by Eylrid View Post
    Here is my view of the relationship of the functions:

    Thinking and Feeling:
    I believe that any chain of logic, however long, that a decision is based on, if followed back, starts with at least one emotional value. Emotions set the goals. Logic decides how to reach them.

    Thinkers assign these emotional values subconsciously, then consciously go through a chain of logic. The chain of logic can go far enough away from the original emotional values that it gives the illusion of pure logic.

    To see how this works, take any decision you have made. Why did you decide that way? Now take that motivation. Why did you want that? Keep following it back far enough and you will get to something emotionally based.

    Feelers consciously feel emotional values, then go through a subconscious, and shorter, chain of logic to assign emotional values to other things.


    iNtuition and Sensing:
    iNtuition and sensing have a relationship similar to that of thinking and feeling. All chains of intuition start with a sensory input of some sort.

    iNtuitives subconsciously take in a bit of sensory input, then consciously go through a chain of intuition. The chain of intuition can take such big leaps and get so far from the original sensory input, that it becomes totally unrelated. This can give the illusion of pure intuition.

    There have been a number of times where I, as an intuitive, have been thinking about some random topic and thought to myself "How did I get on that topic?" Unfailingly, when I trace my thought process back, I get to a sensory input.

    Sensors consciously take in sensory input, then follow a subconscious, and shorter, chain of intuition.
    I love your thoughts on this!

    I've thought about this relationship many times myself for different reasons, but arrived at a pretty similar conclusion. It originated with a sort of "INTP-ish" line-of-thought that passion was negative and that an entirely logical (or thinking) being would be ultimately "perfect." I eventually realized that this is not the case, as our passion (or feeling) is what inspires us to do anything - including listen to logic! Now I see them in a very similar manner as you - inseparable processes that need only be moderated to pursue the ideal!
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    INFP - The Idealists

    What a fantastic avatar!




    Someone should have a contest on the bEST avatar (prettiest, most dramatic, sadest, happiest). I would soooo vote yours cutest. Nominations and a poll type thing. Yesterday I saw this one, user lateralus, and thought it was just beautiful.



    ...sorry for derailing the thread but your avatar is so cute!!!!!!

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by Sily Wily View Post
    What a fantastic avatar!




    Someone should have a contest on the bEST avatar (prettiest, most dramatic, sadest, happiest). I would soooo vote yours cutest. Nominations and a poll type thing. Yesterday I saw this one, user lateralus, and thought it was just beautiful.



    ...sorry for derailing the thread but your avatar is so cute!!!!!!
    Thanks. I was thinking it about time for a new one. I originally wanted to do a ninja mouse, but I couldn't find any good ninja mouse pics. I thought about Red Wall (the book this pic comes from) and a light bulb went off.


 

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