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    ISTP - The Mechanics

    MBTI types and horoscope

    With my interest in human personality, I used to study also horoscope. I noticed that also without studying all the ascendents, houses etc., the general signs are usually right - people, born in specific months, have usually a lot of similar traits and I always got along with the signs I was supposed to (for example, fire signs with other fire signs). Of course I am talking about the general (birth) and not daily horoscope. And of course I don't judge people before knowing them.

    But what am I interested in is whether MBTI is influenced also by horoscope. For example, all pisces I've ever met (somehow only males) are very dreamy and out of this world, so I would say they're mostly N (if not even INFx). And so on. Now I am not sure completely whether is the relationship between these two personality analyses hierarchical or parallel. I would like to make a research of types across horoscope signs and see if some of the letters repeat a lot for a certain sign. Do you notice anything about yourself?
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    ISTP - The Mechanics

    Based on my understanding the breakdown goes like this:

    Fire (Aries, Leo, Sagittarius) = N
    Earth (Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn) = S
    Air (Gemini, Libra, Aquarius) = T
    Water (Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces) = F

    But both astrology and personality type as you alluded to has so many components and the personality is quite fluid, so a direct correlation may not be completely possible. However Jung did base his type somewhat on astrological types. Hope that helps.

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    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers


    Quote Originally Posted by Darner View Post
    With my interest in human personality, I used to study also horoscope. I noticed that also without studying all the ascendents, houses etc., the general signs are usually right - people, born in specific months, have usually a lot of similar traits and I always got along with the signs I was supposed to (for example, fire signs with other fire signs). Of course I am talking about the general (birth) and not daily horoscope. And of course I don't judge people before knowing them.

    But what am I interested in is whether MBTI is influenced also by horoscope. For example, all pisces I've ever met (somehow only males) are very dreamy and out of this world, so I would say they're mostly N (if not even INFx). And so on. Now I am not sure completely whether is the relationship between these two personality analyses hierarchical or parallel. I would like to make a research of types across horoscope signs and see if some of the letters repeat a lot for a certain sign. Do you notice anything about yourself?
    I used to be really into horoscopes too until I discovered MBTI- and I agree with you, I did see a lot of traits in people corresponding to their horoscope signs, however, I feel like the zodiac can be pretty vague and generalized [but then again, so can MBTI]- but I would nonetheless love to see if there was a correlation as well..


    there's already a few threads that ask people about their zodiac, here is one:

    MBTI and the Zodiac

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    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers


    oh and to answer your question- I am an ISTJ and a capricorn- I always felt that both described me pretty accurately

    and i know one pisces male infp and another female infp

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    ENTJ - The Executives

    I am an INTJ and a Sagittarius. I never identified with Sagittarius though. I saw myself more as a Scorpio. But I was born on the 25th of Nov so I'm on the cusp of Scorpio. I do find astrology very vague. Everyone can find traits of each sign that mirrors them.
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    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers


    I know an INTJ born on Nov 25th...
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    ISTP - The Mechanics

    Quote Originally Posted by Frannyy View Post
    I used to be really into horoscopes too until I discovered MBTI- and I agree with you, I did see a lot of traits in people corresponding to their horoscope signs, however, I feel like the zodiac can be pretty vague and generalized [but then again, so can MBTI]- but I would nonetheless love to see if there was a correlation as well..


    there's already a few threads that ask people about their zodiac, here is one:

    MBTI and the Zodiac
    Quote Originally Posted by Frannyy View Post
    oh and to answer your question- I am an ISTJ and a capricorn- I always felt that both described me pretty accurately

    and i know one pisces male infp and another female infp
    That would make sense Frannyy. ISTJs dominate with a sensing process, which is equivalent to earth signs (thus Capricorn). However I would not say vague as much as it is just as complex as MBTI since there are so many scenarios to be considered. If you take your sun sign only, it may match up to your dominant preference in MBTI (Capricorn/earth=Sensing), but since you also must consider your other planetary alignments such as the placement of the moon at the time of birth, I see it being similar to your preferences beyond the dominant function. The vagueness may come from the descriptions of the astrological types, which is no different than type descriptions. Some fit, some do not.
    Quote Originally Posted by bionic View Post
    I am an INTJ and a Sagittarius. I never identified with Sagittarius though. I saw myself more as a Scorpio. But I was born on the 25th of Nov so I'm on the cusp of Scorpio. I do find astrology very vague. Everyone can find traits of each sign that mirrors them.
    That makes sense as well Bionic. Sagittarius is a fire sign, which equates to intuition. You dominate with an intuiting function. Interestingly though I equate Scorpio as a feeling function since it is a water sign. When you say born on a cusp, there are different theories of how many days should be considered. I have heard as many as five both ways (10 days) before the sun changes, to very specific dates of one or two either way. I was born May 23rd, so I could just as well be on the cusp of Taurus/Gemini, but it is my understand that the cusp is the 19th through the 21st for most signs.
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    ISFP - The Artists

    I kind of lost interest in astrology when MBTI came along, but I know much about it.
    I just can't find pattern bewteen the 16 types, and the zodiac.
    I am a Cancer, with Sagittarius rising, and Pisces moon. I know people consider them when discussing MBTI.

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    I'm a Leo and yet I am nothing like the descriptions I have read. Perhaps it is because astrology is a pseudoscience that has no merit and should be permanently discarded along with all the other BS polluting people's minds like homeopathy.
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    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers


    yeah I never got really fully into the ascendants and stuff, but I know they provide much more accurate descriptions...


    thanks for the info!- I happen to know quite a few ISTP taurus men as well


     
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