[NotSoRighteousRob]

Ok, yea I know I have not been able to really make a decision on this, and for the most part I have had to let it go so it will not drive me insane with uncertainties.


Anyways, I was mulling it over a bit and I needed some clarification about the general idea of having a "preference"


Ok, so normally, I think I would prefer to deal with things I like or know, things I enjoy. And in these area's I am probably going to trust my intuition if it is something I am familiar with. In these situations it would be my preference.



On the other hand, when working in an area that I am unsure, I rely on my sensing. And I do enjoy working on things that I have no prior history with, as long as it's something I am interested in.

But what does that mean? I do not know what I would prefer, to work on something I am completely unfamiliar with or to work on something I really enjoy and know but can learn more about. I There are so many variables, how can people say they have a preference in one type when as humans we apply different rules of logical thinking to every situation we encounter.


I do not want to say the system is flawed, but I am beginning to have more doubts.




(and yes grey, I know my overactive Te function is likely the cause of my problem here )

[Korvyna]

Hrm... Trying to organize my thoughts here. I've read so much lately that I'm afraid I'm mixing things up...

From my understanding, sensors like to take the familiar approach instead of trying new ways to solve issues. I can see where that would conflict with sensors spontaneity at times... Then again, I may be totally off on my assessment.

It also helps to consider whether you prefer to live in the here and now or if you are more concerned with your future.

[TreeBob]

Ok, yea I know I have not been able to really make a decision on this, and for the most part I have had to let it go so it will not drive me insane with uncertainties.


Anyways, I was mulling it over a bit and I needed some clarification about the general idea of having a "preference"


Ok, so normally, I think I would prefer to deal with things I like or know, things I enjoy. And in these area's I am probably going to trust my intuition if it is something I am familiar with. In these situations it would be my preference.

On the other hand, when working in an area that I am unsure, I rely on my sensing. And I do enjoy working on things that I have no prior history with, as long as it's something I am interested in.

But what does that mean? I do not know what I would prefer, to work on something I am completely unfamiliar with or to work on something I really enjoy and know but can learn more about. I There are so many variables, how can people say they have a preference in one type when as humans we apply different rules of logical thinking to every situation we encounter.


I do not want to say the system is flawed, but I am beginning to have more doubts.




(and yes grey, I know my overactive Te function is likely the cause of my problem here )

Why would you say there is a flaw in the system? Every one of us uses N and S throughout the day. We use it just like you say. You prefer the one you do subconsciously by default. If you are in a new situation and you are using your Sensing then I would say you are a sensor. Many intuitive types I know are in their head or focused on a task throughout the day. It really doesn't vary that much.

I go to get coffee with my INTP friend every day. Every day she will be in line talking to me, focusing on the subject and every day she forgets about talking to the lady waiting to take her order. When I nudge her she gets confused for about 5 seconds. Funny thing is she orders the same thing every day and usually says the wrong thing. The girls behind the counter actually know her order by heart and I think they find it humorous.

What I am trying to say is she is displaying her Ne like a beacon. In her case she is strongly intuitive so it is easier to tell. On the flip side I am Se dominated. I see all of this going on around me even while I am focusing on her conversation. I see her, I see the girls at the cash and I can process the conversation and nudge her into action. Both of us are intelligent (both use Ti) but our brains process information completely the opposite way. She has a lot going on in her head when she is analyzing something where as mine is nearly empty

[Functianalyst]

Ok, yea I know I have not been able to really make a decision on this, and for the most part I have had to let it go so it will not drive me insane with uncertainties.

Anyways, I was mulling it over a bit and I needed some clarification about the general idea of having a "preference"

Ok, so normally, I think I would prefer to deal with things I like or know, things I enjoy. And in these area's I am probably going to trust my intuition if it is something I am familiar with. In these situations it would be my preference.

I agree with Bob here, you’re looking at things in an either/or manner (most likely considering basic dichotomies). You just named the actual process here of using Se-Ni in tandem. There is a difference in intuition and intuiting (the latter being what Jung proposed). However in this case you’re not intuiting if you already know something. You’re merely taking a template and lying it on top of a new problem. This is Se at it’s finest as well. From the ESTP description at bestfit.com

New stuff, that’s the thrill. I love to learn. I can take a prior experience and lay it right on top of what I’m doing today and carry it all forward, and it’s a snap.

On the other hand, when working in an area that I am unsure, I rely on my sensing. And I do enjoy working on things that I have no prior history with, as long as it's something I am interested in.

But what does that mean? I do not know what I would prefer, to work on something I am completely unfamiliar with or to work on something I really enjoy and know but can learn more about. I There are so many variables, how can people say they have a preference in one type when as humans we apply different rules of logical thinking to every situation we encounter.

I do not want to say the system is flawed, but I am beginning to have more doubts.

Not sure what you’re actually asking here Righteous. If you are attempting to determine your best fit type, there is a process in lieu of trying to understand by picking and choosing functions.

If your intent is to find your type, remove yourself from the picture as much as possible. I am not as big on assessments as Grey since human fallacy is always part of problem. However if you consistently score clear in any particular two dichotomies, then most likely that is your dominant function. I always score high in introverting and thinking. Ergo it confirms that I prefer Ti as my dominant function. Based on that, I could only be one of two types (ISTP/INTP). However I have posted the suggestions below all over this forum. You can take a temperament test like this one to see which temperament order you prefer. Refer to the descriptions of each temperament below to see if it fits:

NT, NF, SJ, SP

Then determine your interaction style by going to pages 12, 14 and 16 .

[NotSoRighteousRob]

thanks for the tips, when I no longer see doubles I'll be sure to look into them more thoroughly

[At_the_Meadows]

My theory is that even though we have a preference for one type of personality, we still have and can recognise all of the functions - it's just that it's going to drain us if we use it. So all intuitives are also sensors, all feelers are also thinkers... it's just where it is in our preference...

Korvyna is also right in distinguishing between which is more you - in the here and now or thinking about the future. The difference between these two would mean two different communication styles as well. I have heard sensors try to speak intuitive language - it's a bit weird! I also hear myself try to talk in sensing here and now language and it sounds forced and awkward!

This is probably because we're not naturally coherent in speaking the other "language." Good practice though and good to know that it's just different, not right or wrong by any means.

[Yedra]

I like to think in these pairs:

Se/Ne - information gathering
Se will gather information from the external world as it is.
Ne will gather information from the external world as it is and as it could be.

Si/Ni - information processing
Si will process information gathered by Ne and see where it fits in the existing systems of the past and the present.
Ni will process information gathered by Se and see the hidden meanings behind it.

Fi/Ti - forming opinions, making judgments
Fi will make a judgment that is of importance only to the subject based on the process of Se-Ni or Ne-Si.
Ti will establish a universal truth based on the process of Se-Ni or Ne-Si.

Fe/Te - taking action in the external world
Fe is trying to make people come around to the judgments of Ti in order to unify the external world.
Te is taking facts from the external world that will be congruent with the judgments of Fi and starts building from that.

[StellarTwirl]

Fe is trying to make people come around to the judgments of Ti in order to unify the external world.

This is the plot of almost every episode of "Curb Your Enthusiasm"! Except Larry never actually succeeds, so hilarity ensues.