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    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers

    MBTI and the four temperaments

    Just wondering how closely you fit to this suggestion of type and one of the four temperaments.

    I'm ISTJ and am melancholic. Phleg is the second closest. The other two hardly even even register so it's pretty accurate for me.

    What about you: leave your type, temperament and any thoughts.

    ISTJ Pure Melancholy
    ISFJ Phlegmatic/Melancholy ("PhlegMel")
    INFJ Melancholy/Phlegmatic ("MelPhleg")
    INTJ Melancholy/Choleric ("MelChlor")
    ISTP Melancholy/Sanguine ("MelSan")
    ISFP Phlegmatic/Sanguine ("PhlegSan")
    INFP Pure Phlegmatic
    INTP Phlegmatic/Choleric ("PhlegChlor")
    ESTP Choleric/Sanguine ("ChlorSan")
    ESFP Pure Sanguine
    ENFP Sanguine/Phlegmatic ("SanPhleg")
    ENTP Sanguine/Choleric ("SanChlor")
    ESTJ Choleric/Melancholy ("ChlorMel")
    ESFJ Sanguine/Melancholy ("SanMel")
    ENFJ Choleric/Phlegmatic ("ChlorPhleg")
    ENTJ Pure Choleric

    (This comes from MBTI and the "Four Temperaments")
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Looks pretty legit. Melancholy/Sanguine, I can see it.
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    INFP - The Idealists

    INFP, and I'm definitely not phlegmatic. I'm melancholy. So not too accurate for me.
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Quote Originally Posted by ImminentThunder View Post
    INFP, and I'm definitely not phlegmatic. I'm melancholy. So not too accurate for me.
    Are you sure? The melancholic type is defined as being much more like a Thinker than a Feeler. This page http://fourtemperaments.com/4primary.htm definitely makes them sound like ISTJ's. :\
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    Unknown Personality

    I'm an INFP, but I think I'm a PhlegMel...
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    INFP - The Idealists

    Quote Originally Posted by raichu View Post
    Are you sure? The melancholic type is defined as being much more like a Thinker than a Feeler. This page Contact Us definitely makes them sound like ISTJ's. :\
    Oh, I'm definitely sure. I have a well-developed thinking and judging side. Melancholy people are also described as creative and sensitive, which could also be attributed to NFs. Certainly the stereotypical melancholy is an ISTJ, but it can still fit other types. I don't fit the easygoing description of phlegmatic at all.

    The Phlegmatic is an introverted, calm, unemotional, easygoing, never-get-upset, person.
    see, that's not me, other than introverted. I'm very easily upset and am the exact opposite of calm. I am NOT easy-going. At all.

    I'm a very ISTJish INFP, I suppose. :p
    Also, since when are ENFJs choleric? I thought they'd be more sanguine.

    Edit: I think type 4 or type 6 INFPs would lean towards melancholy; 9s would be phlegmatic.
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    INFP - The Idealists

    Quote Originally Posted by silk15 View Post
    Just wondering how closely you fit to this suggestion of type and one of the four temperaments.
    ...
    INFP Pure Phlegmatic
    ...
    I'm INFP 9w1 and per this thread I'm:

    Sanguine Phlegmatic

    43 Sanguine, 29 Melancholy, 14 Choleric, 43 Phlegmatic

    Hail to you who is a Sanguine Phlegmatic!

    The peaceful fun presence that makes every outing pleasant. The simplicity of a child in complexsituations. The stability to stay straight on the course. The creativity and charm to color a drab day. The positive agreeableness that makes groups work. The enthusiasm and energy to start over and over again. The patience to put up with provokers & listen while others have their say. The gift of mediation,uniting opposing forces & creating peace. The gift of humor & joy for every situation. The will to live in such a way that even your enemies can't find anything
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    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers

    Quote Originally Posted by ImminentThunder View Post
    INFP, and I'm definitely not phlegmatic. I'm melancholy. So not too accurate for me.
    So this descriptions:

    The melancholy is an introverted temperament type. His natural style is analytical and perfectionist. He is the most moody of types ranging from highly "up" to gloomy and depressed. During his low periods he can be very antagonistic and does not make friends easily. He is the most dependable of the temperaments due to his perfectionist tendencies. His analytical ability allows him to accurately diagnose obstacles and problems, which often keep him from making changes - he prefers the status quo and may seem overly pessimistic.

    He may choose a difficult life vocation involving personal sacrifice. Many melancholies become doctors or scientists or artists. Their interpersonal style can be critical and negative. He tends to be more indecisive than other types. They have difficulty giving praise and approval because they cannot bring themselves to say something that is not 100% true. They also are usually dissatisfied with themselves being highly self-critical.

    Other weaknesses include being "thin skinned" or touchy and easily offended. He often feels persecuted and may seek revenge for real or imagined insults. He tends to be "all or nothing" in his evaluation of things; everything must be black or white and no shades of gray. He is least likely to consider mitigating circumstances when evaluating a person or situation. No temperament is more likely to be legalistic and rigid. He can be intolerant and impatient with those who do not see things his way.
    Fits you better than this one:

    The phlegmatic is best characterized by the words "easy going". He is the calm and steady person who is not easily disturbed. He is the easiest temperament type to get along with. Life for him is happy, unexcited and calm. Underneath the calm exterior, the phlegmatic is the most timid temperament type. He often uses humor to make his points. The phlegmatic is more an observer and does not involve himself in the activities of others.

    Phlegmatics make excellent teachers, counselors and administrators. They are very dependable and organized and, while they never volunteer, they make good group leaders.

    The weakness of a phlegmatic include lack of motivation or even laziness; they appear to lack drive and ambition. A phlegmatic needs to realize that he is not internally motivated and take up activities that force him into action. The phlegmatic is self-protective and may be selfish. He is often very stubborn, though it is hidden beneath his mild-mannered style. He is also the most fearful of temperaments.
    ?

    I'm not being critical, just curious. There may be another blend that suits you better, but I would think an INFP would have Phleg as one of the top two scores.

    Personally, I'm ISTJ and test Melacholy/Choleric.

    Source
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    INFP - The Idealists

    Quote Originally Posted by niss View Post
    So this descriptions:



    Fits you better than this one:



    ?

    I'm not being critical, just curious. There may be another blend that suits you better, but I would think an INFP would have Phleg as one of the top two scores.

    Personally, I'm ISTJ and test Melacholy/Choleric.

    Source
    Surprisingly enough, yes. :) I always cringed when I read about the "easygoing" and "peacemaker" descriptions of INFPs because they don't really describe me.

    Thanks for the link; temperament theory has always interested me and it was great to read more of it. I bolded the parts of each of those two descriptions that I relate to:

    The melancholy is an introverted temperament type. His natural style is analytical and perfectionist. He is the most moody of types ranging from highly "up" to gloomy and depressed. During his low periods he can be very antagonistic and does not make friends easily. He is the most dependable of the temperaments due to his perfectionist tendencies. His analytical ability allows him to accurately diagnose obstacles and problems, which often keep him from making changes - he prefers the status quo and may seem overly pessimistic.

    He may choose a difficult life vocation involving personal sacrifice. Many melancholies become doctors or scientists or artists. Their interpersonal style can be critical and negative. He tends to be more indecisive than other types. They have difficulty giving praise and approval because they cannot bring themselves to say something that is not 100% true. They also are usually dissatisfied with themselves being highly self-critical.

    Other weaknesses include being "thin skinned" or touchy and easily offended. He often feels persecuted and may seek revenge for real or imagined insults. He tends to be "all or nothing" in his evaluation of things; everything must be black or white and no shades of gray. He is least likely to consider mitigating circumstances when evaluating a person or situation. No temperament is more likely to be legalistic and rigid. He can be intolerant and impatient with those who do not see things his way.
    The phlegmatic is best characterized by the words "easy going". He is the calm and steady person who is not easily disturbed.He is the easiest temperament type to get along with. Life for him is happy, unexcited and calm. Underneath the calm exterior, the phlegmatic is the most timid temperament type. He often uses humor to make his points. The phlegmatic is more an observer and does not involve himself in the activities of others.

    Phlegmatics make excellent teachers, counselors and administrators. They are very dependable and organized and, while they never volunteer, they make good group leaders.

    The weakness of a phlegmatic include lack of motivation or even laziness; they appear to lack drive and ambition. A phlegmatic needs to realize that he is not internally motivated and take up activities that force him into action. The phlegmatic is self-protective and may be selfish. He is often very stubborn, though it is hidden beneath his mild-mannered style. He is also the most fearful of temperaments.
    I guess the reason why I don't relate to phlegmatic is because they seem to be very easygoing, happy, and calm. They seem to be sort of pushovers whereas I am stubborn and quietly opinionated. I've always been told "Just go with the flow," and I hate it when people tell me that. XD I'm uptight, anxious, prone to melancholy, and generally negative. I'm also extremely moody and irritable - even here on PerC I can be all excited and happy one day, and then completely negative and upset the next. I overreact to things. I hold myself to a high standard - for example, if I don't receive straight As in school (I'm in college), I'll get very angry with myself for it.

    Oh, and I'm not lazy, nor do I lack ambition. Disorganized and easily distracted, certainly, but not lazy. I also have a lot of goals that I'm working towards. ^^

    Maybe I am misunderstanding the theory, though. Tests have always put me as melancholy as my highest score, followed by sanguine, and choleric and phlegmatic are about equal.
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    INTJ - The Scientists

    I'm INTJ with a fairly low J preference. I test Phlegmatic/Choleric ("PhlegChlor"). I'd say pretty accurate.
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