[caraez]

Slightly derailing the thread, I made this video with pneumoceptor (there are four parts):

[bigtalljay]

Thanks for the video. I think I may go take a look at some more of yours and delay what little sleep I'm going to get.

There were some brief moments in my history of studying MBTI that I thought I could be something like INFJ or INTP, but everything keeps coming back to INFP. It was a lot of help for me to study up on the different functions. Most importantly, I figured out that I preferred Fi much over Fe, and while I seem to relate to Ni to a point, I think I am more Ne (as apparently evidenced below in the results).

The thing I got hung up on when I first got into MBTI was my T/F preference. I would think to myself, "Well, I tested as INFP, but I am capable of logic, so am I actually an INTP?" But then I realized that everyone uses all their functions when they are called for, but what defines our type is which ones we reach for first when approaching life. A game of chess (yeah, I can be INFP and like that) is a special problem that lends itself to impersonal logic and strategy. Fi just doesn't do anything here really, so I have to reach for something else in the stack and call on some form of T (Ti I think... no pun originally intended, but now kindly brought to your attention) plus Ne. At least that is how I can see it working at the moment, but I could be off.

The results:

You are most likely an INFP. Okay, this is your result. Your functions are listed below.
Te: 4
Fe:8
Ti: 9
Fi:15
Se:3
Ne:13
Si:8
Ni:12

[bigtalljay]

Slightly derailing the thread, I made this video with pneumoceptor (there are four parts):

Thanks, I ended up watching all four of those. Really good and mega-interesting stuff. It becomes easier to study types when you can compare them, especially with two real life examples. Also, it became more confirmed (is that even possible?) that I was an INFP based on how much I was relating to your thought processes, speech patterns, and general demeanor.

And I don't think it's a derail... it's an excellent "case study" to reinforce what was said in the OP's video.

[wisdom]

Part 1, predictably INFJ dominates INFP. INFJ quickly switches roles as appropriate (asking serious questions, responding with laughter to light-hearted remarks). INFJ seems confident. INFP sounds uncertain but also agreeable. INFJ looks vaguely corporate. INFP looks casual. The only stereotype not shown is the INFP dressing weird; her style isn't weird.

[pneumoceptor]

Part 1, predictably INFJ dominates INFP. INFJ quickly switches roles as appropriate (asking serious questions, responding with laughter to light-hearted remarks). INFJ seems confident. INFP sounds uncertain but also agreeable. INFJ looks vaguely corporate. INFP looks casual. The only stereotype not shown is the INFP dressing weird; her style isn't weird.

I agree for the most part with your generalizations, but I will say that you also have to take into account who is "hosting" the videos. And that's yours truly. If I were the guest (and not having to pay attention to time, monitoring video length, monitoring recording, etc), I might seem less "corporate". Also, I'm twice caraez's age, which has an effect on dynamics, too... (I'd love to chat with some 30+ INFPs.)

[Twigs]

@Doctorjuice
Could you give some concrete examples of use of the different functions? How would two people, one using Te and one using Ti, approach the same problem or situation?

(I'm having a lot of trouble thinking of a good sample situation oh dear) x_x
Let's say two people, one using Te and one using Ti, are asked to write one essay (each) about the use of a particular metaphor in a particular book. How would each person go about it? (please feel free to come up with a better example, I feel like this one isn't going to be of much use)

[PinkDolphin]

Thank you so much for posting this! I think I may be an INFJ, not INFP. This was a major help! I subscribed and I look forward to more from you!

[Twigs]

Alright, this is the summary of what I think I know so far:


Extraverted functions want breadth, introverted ones want depth. Extraverted ones want to gather as much information as possible, introverted ones want to streamline it. Extraverted ones multiply and introverted ones divide.


Se: gathering as much concrete data as possible in the current outside world
Ne: making lots of new connections and patterns with the current outside world, multiple future possibilities for each moment in time
Te: sharing your ideas and entertaining new ones, organisation of data, craving a universal measurement system
Fe: sharing your feelings and gauging others', craving a universal value system
Si: record of the subjective interpretation of an event
Ni: making connections with existing data, whittling down possibilities into likelihoods (this is the one I'm shakiest on)
Ti: forming your own ideas and studying something in-depth, search for absolute truth
Fi: gauging your own feelings and establishing your own values


Ne-Si: It could happen like a or b or c, but c is how it happened last time/in a similar situation, so the outcome will probably be c.
Se-Ni: a and b and c happened, and this is probably why they happened or what it meant. (not quite sure how this relates to future predictions)
Te-Fi: objective/shared logic, subjective/internal values
Fe-Ti: objective/shared values, subjective/internal logic


Is any of that wildly incorrect? (if so, please do tell me!!)

I've seen so many contradictions in explanation of the functions (lots of induction vs. deduction being thrown around, and whether Ne-Si or Ni-Se is better at making predictions) and I just want to get the definitions clear. (is this Ti at work? If so, I've mistyped myself as an INFP and should probably be INFJ instead) (or maybe it's Te wanting to get other peoples' input) (or maybe I'm using my shadow functions now and I'm something else completely) (sigh)

[Doctorjuice]

Alright, this is the summary of what I think I know so far:


Extraverted functions want breadth, introverted ones want depth. Extraverted ones want to gather as much information as possible, introverted ones want to streamline it. Extraverted ones multiply and introverted ones divide.


Se: gathering as much concrete data as possible in the current outside world
Ne: making lots of new connections and patterns with the current outside world, multiple future possibilities for each moment in time
Te: sharing your ideas and entertaining new ones, organisation of data, craving a universal measurement system
Fe: sharing your feelings and gauging others', craving a universal value system
Si: record of the subjective interpretation of an event
Ni: making connections with existing data, whittling down possibilities into likelihoods (this is the one I'm shakiest on)
Ti: forming your own ideas and studying something in-depth, search for absolute truth
Fi: gauging your own feelings and establishing your own values


Ne-Si: It could happen like a or b or c, but c is how it happened last time/in a similar situation, so the outcome will probably be c.
Se-Ni: a and b and c happened, and this is probably why they happened or what it meant. (not quite sure how this relates to future predictions)
Te-Fi: objective/shared logic, subjective/internal values
Fe-Ti: objective/shared values, subjective/internal logic


Is any of that wildly incorrect? (if so, please do tell me!!)

I've seen so many contradictions in explanation of the functions (lots of induction vs. deduction being thrown around, and whether Ne-Si or Ni-Se is better at making predictions) and I just want to get the definitions clear. (is this Ti at work? If so, I've mistyped myself as an INFP and should probably be INFJ instead) (or maybe it's Te wanting to get other peoples' input) (or maybe I'm using my shadow functions now and I'm something else completely) (sigh)

Everything seems good hear to me. Induction vs deduction might correlate with Ti vs Te though I'm not sure. Just throwing that thought out there. I don't think that points to Ti at work at all. Wanting to get your definitions clear... I'm not sure if that points to any one function.

[Boolean11]

Everything seems good hear to me. Induction vs deduction might correlate with Ti vs Te though I'm not sure. Just throwing that thought out there. I don't think that points to Ti at work at all. Wanting to get your definitions clear... I'm not sure if that points to any one function.

Both INTPs and INTJs use both inductive and deductive logic, we are both masters of logic. However the difference is that Te types undermine the importance of internal logical order since the subjective perception function provides that anyway. Hence we are unswayed by ideas that merely sound right, we don't respect internal logic. Instead Te types seek external evidence (hence Te's nature) to support the subjective perceptions (Si/Ni) else the model is considered void.

However in turn, Ti types consider themselves the masters of external logic (Te) which is why they don't need to check their models against external evidence. This dynamic works well when you factor the fact that these guys shun subjective perceptions. For an idea to be considered for processing ideally it should have been sourced from an objective perception (Se/Ne).

Te = Seeking external evidence, living the helper perception function to make sense of it. (Te's take Ti for grunted)
Ti = Seeking internal order, uses data given from the perception function (Ti's take Te for grunted)

//So far so good. But at the tertiary and inferior level Te and Ti are slightly different