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This is a discussion on I like to give advice, but now I could use advice. within the ISTP Forum - The Mechanics forums, part of the SP's Temperament Forum- The Creators category; Originally Posted by n2freedom Yes, indeed it is. She is a rare Enneatype for ENFP and you're less common Enneatype ...

AMEN! And, I would venture to say that she admires you and appreciates your unadulterated honesty. It's hard to swallow at first but I'm sure she would rather deal with someone who is open and honest with her even if it does feel like being caught in an electric fence in the moment. And, I would also venture to say that you both challenge each other to nth power and have grown as individuals as a result.
Holy... I'm INFP and I recognize every problem mentioned here -- from the being overwhelmed and wanting to run, the preoccupation and despair about the future, to filling in his blanks with the wildest paranoid conclusions, having complete trust and dealing with anxiety... this could be me and my ISTP. Except for the E/I thing where she wants him to socialize more, that one's switched between us and I'm the one he kind of has to drag out to meet people.
So thank you from an INFP... I kinda wish my ISTP was trying to get to the bottom of things the way MXZCCT and Dusty are doing, or if he is Ti-ing it, I wish mine could share it with me somehow. But he hates discussing this sort of stuff...
As an ISTP/Type 8, do you find that you say things in the heat of the moment that you don't necessarily mean if you see it as a means of maintaining control of the situation? I hope this makes sense. In other words, do you issue ultimatums and threats when angry that later you wish you might not have said?

The thing to keep in mind with the istp/enfp combination is that each misunderstanding stems from one or both of you misunderstanding the other due to your inferior functions not working properly. The more misunderstandings are brought to light the more you will strengthen your inferior functions and misunderstandings will become less frequent. New misunderstandings will emerge the further you go into it, it's never ending, but the upside of that is a lifetime of guaranteed make-up sex. Nothing beats a bit of make-up sex, it's almost worth causing a fight for.

Absolutly. All the time.
Matter of fact, this relationship with my ENFP would be much easier if I could keep my mouth shut. I've said many things that I DEEPLY regret saying. I'll never live it down, and I know there is nothing to take the effect of those words back. Even if, in my viewpoint, the justification behind the words were correct, I shouldnt have said them in the tone of voice or how I said them, or the choice of words I've used to describe whatever it is im trying to get across.
As an ISTP 8w9, I SUCK with words.



A few weeks back mine told me my top was disgusting. He was telling a friend about it later and said it was like something a trucker would wear. I thought that was funny. What he should have said was that the shape was all gone out of my top and it made me look like a trucker. Saying it was disgusting was a bad choice of words. He agreed with me later. He's learning.
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