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This is a discussion on Interaction with other ISTJs IRL within the ISTJ Forum - The Duty Fulfillers forums, part of the SJ's Temperament Forum- The Overseers category; Originally Posted by Lunamir24 ...ultimate insightful post on ISTJ nature... This is partly why I'm making the effort to open ...
Sela I was curious as to why you said this :P. Do you encounter any problems from having what's viewed as more masculine personality traits? If so, is it more from others or something you struggle with yourself because of perhaps, different expectations? Just wondering!
For an ISTJ meeting other ISTJs is like... meeting quiet people. And conversation can feel forced.
The short answer is both. Western society has a certain expectation for women, and one of those expectations is that women act like compassionate, nurturing, and social creatures. When a woman busts that stereotype, she's automatically labeled a bitch. Nevermind the fact that a man in Western society is praised for doing the SAME EXACT THING. If I had a dollar for every time someone called me a bitch (or some variation thereof), I'd be about as rich as Warren Buffet right now.
But yeah, because of the gender differences.. I think females get more problems of being seen as a bitch. I think guys can still be seen as assholes too though lol but I guess they can get away with it more. But like @Adesi said, I also think it's a positive/empowering trait. I actually admire how they can be so honest & strong-minded. It can be very refreshing having an ISTJ around to just say it as it is. And I think the ISTJ female I know actually takes pride in these so called 'masculine traits' because it just means people perceive her as independent, capable, strong, etc. and she just doesn't care what people think of her in general but how she feels about herself. I think that's very coool.
Lol it's like lookin at a mirror pretty much.
Ofc starting a convo is the pits neither wants to speak first, so a bit of awkward silence happens but once it's over find we have a lot in common.
I believe I've only meet two others IRL sooo yeaaah.