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This is a discussion on The ISTJ Rant/Rave Thread within the ISTJ Forum - The Duty Fulfillers forums, part of the SJ's Temperament Forum- The Overseers category; Originally Posted by Sela You will be waiting a very long time, because the scenario that you have in mind ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sela View Post
    You will be waiting a very long time, because the scenario that you have in mind will happen like ... never.
    <--- Only one emoticon in this post. Drats!


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    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers


    Quote Originally Posted by Niccolo Machiavelli View Post
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    Dr. Phil.com - Advice - Seven Steps to Breaking Your Addiction
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    This IS an intervention!
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    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers

    Rave: My friends have gotten our Minecraft server back together! Yay!
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    ESFP - The Performers


    Quote Originally Posted by Niccolo Machiavelli View Post
    You have to put up with me and pretend to like me because I'm diddling @Stephen !!!

    Just don't tell that @Kayness chick! We're trying to keep it on the DL!


    Oh snap! I let the cat out of the bag!
    so you want to have niss believe that you and stephen are diddling to make niss jealous, and then later have me discover that you're fooling around with stephen...

    OMG LOVE TRIANGLE/SQUARE and drama! this should be some sort of cheesy soap episode
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  6. #4326
    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers

    Quote Originally Posted by Sela View Post
    I don't care if other types think I'm cool or not based on my type (or anything else, for that matter). The people that know me well know me enough to know that I don't have to resort to theatrics to be interesting. Do I want to be liked? Of course I do; I'm human, and human beings have a need for acceptance and approval.
    "You're cool." "You're weird." "You're creepy." "You're wacky." "You're <whatever>."

    All methods of "measuring" you socially in one manner or another, either stating that you fit in well or that you are not conforming when you "really should". Said "really should" being in their eyes, to the illusions in their mind, to the image that they have of you.

    Strip away the morality.

    Look at the reality.

    With a cold and emotionless evaluation - what are we really looking at here? Why are they attempting to tell me something by measuring me in this manner?

    If it is a "positive" measuring: I accept you as you are. Thank you.

    If it is a "negative" measuring: why are they saying this? Are they expecting/wanting me to change? Is this desire for change because they wish to connect with me? Why do they want to change me to their internal image of me? Do they feel threatened? Why do they feel threatened? How is it that I feel threatening towards them? Do I make them feel uncomfortable about themselves? Why is it that I make them feel uncomfortable about themselves? Is it because they feel uncomfortable looking at themselves? Are they afraid of themselves? Why are they afraid of themselves? If they looked at themselves, would they not measure up to their own image of themselves?

    Chains upon chains upon chains of unending questions involving self-reflection and self-evaluation and self-analysis.

    Do I really wish to be accepted and approved of by them? If they are too frightened to look at themselves?

    Am I too frightened to look at myself in this way also?
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  7. #4327
    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers

    Quote Originally Posted by Sela View Post
    To use the excessive emoticons as an example, it grates on my nerves and seems childish. Why does the Renaissance Man feel the need to use so many of them all the damn time? Is it because he's an INTJ in name only? Or is it because he enjoys pushing people's buttons and it's really a big experiment? Or is it just youthfulness? ... or is it the fact that when you get down to brass tacks, he's rocking the boat and (we ISTJ's) we are unsettled by this lack of conformity?
    I know where you are coming from. I mean, I find it excessive and irritating, also. I'm just wondering about "excessive" in this instance, as it applies to ISTJs, since several of us voiced displeasure over this. I wonder how directly it is impacted by type.
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  8. #4328
    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers

    Now that was funny!
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  9. #4329
    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers

    Quote Originally Posted by Kayness View Post
    so you want to have niss believe that you and stephen are diddling to make niss jealous, and then later have me discover that you're fooling around with stephen...

    OMG LOVE TRIANGLE/SQUARE and drama! this should be some sort of cheesy soap episode
    I don't think it is going to go well for our Renaissance Man. The ISTJ Medici are in power; they have ropes.

    :o
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    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers

    Quote Originally Posted by Yardiff Bey View Post
    Am I too frightened to look at myself in this way also?
    Or, maybe the ISTJ in me really doesn't care what they think.
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