[bubbly00]

I've found I create the same awkwardness whenever I try to compliment people or express feelings. My try at it was "I really like (blank) about you because you are always (blank)" I smiled and seem a bit nervous and go onto say "Ya, I don't really compliment often so take it to heart" or something to that effect. Being out of character is pretty exhausting. Its tempting not to compliment, as these situations make us feel like a fish out of water.



I don't compliment if I don't think they're exceedingly great in a obvious way. People must be shown appreciated for what they are and do when great. It's good to look for this side of an ISTJ as not all people want to look so deep into what the ISTJ to find that warmer side.

i lost my wallet recently!! well I know its here in the house....somewhere. :(

And guilty of losing all the things you mentioned above. And fuck yea its aggregating. I must of wasted years of my life looking for stuff. I tried to come up with 'systems' before, but so far apparently i suck too much to keep up with a certain regime long enough for it to work.

[niss]

i lost my wallet recently!! well I know its here in the house....somewhere. :(

And guilty of losing all the things you mentioned above. And fuck yea its aggregating. I must of wasted years of my life looking for stuff. I tried to come up with 'systems' before, but so far apparently i suck too much to keep up with a certain regime long enough for it to work.

Ya know, it bothers me when people put themselves down. You simply haven't developed a system that works for you. Don't try to imitate an ISTJs rigid procedure for keeping track of your stuff. Instead, develop your own method and do what works for you.

Be sure, that this will always be a part of you, but also know that you will get better if you work at it. I complain a lot, but SWMBO really doesn't lose her personal items too often any more.

[bubbly00]

Ya know, it bothers me when people put themselves down. You simply haven't developed a system that works for you. Don't try to imitate an ISTJs rigid procedure for keeping track of your stuff. Instead, develop your own method and do what works for you.

Be sure, that this will always be a part of you, but also know that you will get better if you work at it. I complain a lot, but SWMBO really doesn't lose her personal items too often any more.

thanks darling! It bothers me when people put themselves down too! lol, feels weird cause i'm usually the one that tries help them pick up their spirits.

Your right of course, hopefully(crosses fingers) in the near future, i wont be spending as much time searching.

[Sunrain]

I've noticed how the ISTJs that care about me always remember really little details, things that I wouldn't bother to remember at all, like exactly what my likes and dislikes are in terms of practical things. For example, how I like my tea, what films/ books I've liked and why, what restaurant I liked and why.. And then 5 years later they'll bring something up in conversation like "But you said you liked that book because..", and my reply will be "What? I said I liked that? Really, when? :S" Recently an ISTJ who cares about me asks me when my birthday is and I told him, and he repeated it outloud and I could tell it was one of those little details that he was storing up in order to remember it. And I'm sure that he will because he's made up his mind to.

As regards ENFPs, you know, I don't think we use Si to remember things unless it's very necessary. What I use to remember things is really more my intuition..I draw intuitive connections between things in my head. So, for example, if I see a person feeling a certain way then my intuition will make a connection between the way they are feeling and the last time they felt that way, and that way I will remember a past conversation. Not the facts of the conversation though so much as the feelings, and that will enable me to draw out the facts once more. It'll be like "They look tired... that reminds me of when they looked tired before.. when I'm tired I like to drink tea... they like to drink tea too..."Hey sweetie, would you like a cup of tea? How do you like your tea again?" I imagine an ISTJs thought process on the subject would be more like "It's 4pm, they like to drink tea at 4pm because I made a point of remembering that last time, they like tea with milk and 2 sugars. I will make them a cup of tea. Would you like a cup of tea?"

I think that, because we as ENFPs are so bad at remembering the details, we draw intuitive maps everywhere. My way of remembering where I put my keys is "When I come in I feel like this, so my first thought is 'I will put my keys on this table', so that I can crash on my bed because I feel like lying down. So my keys are likely to be on this table. Yep there they are." I use empathy to empathize with my past self and remember where I put my keys. The reason I sometimes get lost with that is "Oh I can't remember how I felt..if only I could remember how I felt I would know exactly where I had put my keys, bother :S".
I imagine that an ISTJ's thought process would be more like "I generally walk in the door and put my keys on this table. It's practical to keep them there. There they are." - using Si to remember what you do.

:)