[Sela]

and remember that istj's dont date a whole lot.

and if i didnt say this already, dont ever suplicate, which means dont ever try to win or buy someones affection. dont support her financially , dont pay for her drinks or food, dont go out of your way for her. the most important person in your life is you.

I beg to differ.



Despite (???) being an ISTJ, I've had my fair share of dates. Some were great, some tanked. Don't be afraid or unwilling to date solely based on your personality type.

Secondly, chivalry is NOT dead; I don't care that it's 2010. While I would never want or expect someone that I was simply *dating* to "support me" financially in any way, shape, or form, if a man ASKS ME on a DATE, he'd better be prepared to pay for it. I go "Dutch" with my girlfriends. Likewise, while I am perfectly capable of opening doors on my own, I DO notice when a man does it for me, and yes, I DO appreciate it.

Label me a traditionalist if you wish, but I appreciate and embrace the differences between men and women. Both sexes are special in their own unique ways, and those differences should be celebrated

[niss]

I beg to differ.

Despite (???) being an ISTJ, I've had my fair share of dates. Some were great, some tanked. Don't be afraid or unwilling to date solely based on your personality type.

Secondly, chivalry is NOT dead; I don't care that it's 2010. While I would never want or expect someone that I was simply *dating* to "support me" financially in any way, shape, or form, if a man ASKS ME on a DATE, he'd better be prepared to pay for it. I go "Dutch" with my girlfriends. Likewise, while I am perfectly capable of opening doors on my own, I DO notice when a man does it for me, and yes, I DO appreciate it.

Label me a traditionalist if you wish, but I appreciate and embrace the differences between men and women. Both sexes are special in their own unique ways, and those differences should be celebrated

I'm with you on this.

Guys, pay attention. The method may be a little different generation to generation, but without fail the lady always wants to be made to feel special and to have your attention.

[firedancer42]

I beg to differ.

Despite (???) being an ISTJ, I've had my fair share of dates. Some were great, some tanked. Don't be afraid or unwilling to date solely based on your personality type.

Secondly, chivalry is NOT dead; I don't care that it's 2010. While I would never want or expect someone that I was simply *dating* to "support me" financially in any way, shape, or form, if a man ASKS ME on a DATE, he'd better be prepared to pay for it. I go "Dutch" with my girlfriends. Likewise, while I am perfectly capable of opening doors on my own, I DO notice when a man does it for me, and yes, I DO appreciate it.

Label me a traditionalist if you wish, but I appreciate and embrace the differences between men and women. Both sexes are special in their own unique ways, and those differences should be celebrated

Couldn't have said it better myself. There's a major differece in a guy being a complete sucker over a girl and being a gentleman that she'll actually respect. Maybe some girls take advantage of guys who are chivalrous but they aren't worth the effort until they mature a bit. Wait it out a find a girl worth opening doors for.

[Caius20]

I beg to differ.

Despite (???) being an ISTJ, I've had my fair share of dates. Some were great, some tanked. Don't be afraid or unwilling to date solely based on your personality type.

Secondly, chivalry is NOT dead; I don't care that it's 2010. While I would never want or expect someone that I was simply *dating* to "support me" financially in any way, shape, or form, if a man ASKS ME on a DATE, he'd better be prepared to pay for it. I go "Dutch" with my girlfriends. Likewise, while I am perfectly capable of opening doors on my own, I DO notice when a man does it for me, and yes, I DO appreciate it.

Label me a traditionalist if you wish, but I appreciate and embrace the differences between men and women. Both sexes are special in their own unique ways, and those differences should be celebrated

Honestly, if I did this for every woman that I went out with, I would be a very poor young man.

For me, I never take women out on old fashioned dates. How boring, and cliche. It also turns the atmosphere into the whole, "I am courting you. Please accept my food in return for a goodnight kiss and the chance of having sex." ugh. Taking them on my adventures is always much more fun and rewarding for both of us. Opening doors and being a gentleman is one thing. Paying for dinner for someone you hardly know? Sounds manipulative to me.

Either way, I don't think he should be dating right now. He needs to expand his social circle and make a lot of friends with some ladies.

Actually, since you are in school, I know that my University has a big week festival to welcome all the new attendees. There are events, and lots of young, beautiful women, freshly separated from home and looking for new friends. I suggest you start there, and see where it goes for you. Also, I agree with the David DeAngelo stuff. It's a good place to start on your road to social success. =)

[vagus]

I'm not sure if this has been said but before you enter the dating realm, make sure you know what you're looking for. It's important to have a deeper connection than just sharing music and movies. Having platonic relationships with girls is a good way of discovering this (it's worked for me). Understanding this ahead of time might save you some agony.

Oh, and sorry for barging in on the ISTJ thread. Just depositing my $.02.