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This is a discussion on You know you're ISTJ when... within the ISTJ Forum - The Duty Fulfillers forums, part of the SJ's Temperament Forum- The Overseers category; Originally Posted by Diligence I agree with this to a point. I do think certain subjects are good for feelers ...

  1. #221
    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by Diligence View Post
    I agree with this to a point. I do think certain subjects are good for feelers to teach such as child development classes and certain types of journalism classes. Those two require people to show a lot of emotion when showing how to love and care for children and how to come up with good ideas for writing. As far as the core subjects though like math, science, social studies, humanity classes, and foreign languages, I agree that thinkers do a better job than feelers.



    As far as teachers go and their leniency, I'd say the feeler types tend to get caught up in friendship with students(a nice way of saying brown nosing) and it reflects poorly on those who just want to taught the material and listen attentively to what the teachers try to say.

    For example, one teacher of mine last year was a really nice guy, but in general was a poor teacher. He often succumbed to people who tried to brown nose him, and in turn let those people get away with talking more during class and turning in things late. One night before an assignment was due, I had a family emergency(grandmother with a false heart attack) so I sent him like 5 emails asking him if I could turn in the assignment one day late. I didn't get any sleep that night so I came into his class the next day and he said that he couldn't make an exception for me as it wouldn't be fair for the class.(RANT alert!!!) This from one of his few top grade people in the class and almost never a disrupter of his class, yet he let the extraverted brown nosers turn in things late all year, for the most part.

    I don't mind a teacher who lays out his standards for class and conforms to them, but the fact that those people were given exceptions and others weren't given them is dishonest and unfair.

    Sorry for the rant, but it felt good to get it off my chest
    I will also completely agree that Feelers have no place in teaching in colleges if they allow their Feeling function to dominate and be unfairly lenient towards those who don't deserve it.

    However, I am surprised such an incident occured to you. The opposite of this happens with me where I get the advantage of the feeling teachers apparent partiality. Majority of the teachers I have encountered are feelers. The way the system works for me is that if you can get on to the positive side of the teacher earlier on then your rest of the study year will go very smoothly. Every year, in my first week- I will be the most punctual, the most obedient, the most attentive and the model student. The teacher will obviously take a liking to me. Those who are talkative and disruptive will definitely never be able to get on to teachers good books as much as I can- even with all their sweet extroverted talk. The result- Whenever I ask for an extension or if I have made a mistake then the teacher excuses me while the others who were initially non-punctual and talkative and well, slackers don't get off in a similar scenario.

    The first impression is the lasting impression. And I have experienced it first hand. It doesn't matter if I am not a model student for the rest of the year because the teacher has already formed their impression. I can take as much unfair advantage of this ímpression' even if I make millions of mistakes and be not as competent as their initial impression. Besides, I don't really need to take any advantage as I am a model student for the rest of the year as well.

    I know Feeling teachers are partial but I was surprised they were partial with a hard working student and not with students that hardly- work.
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  2. #222
    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers

    Quote Originally Posted by Achi View Post
    You know you're an ISTJ when you organize all the radio stations in your car by ascending order.
    Bingo!
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  3. #223
    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers

    If you have a "feeler" teacher and you are not participating in class (hello introverts!) then the teacher may be less inclined to cut you slack seeing as you are not measuring up to their standards for participation.


    You might be an ISTJ if you sit through a semester of class dreading group discussions.
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  4. #224
    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers

    Quote Originally Posted by Achi View Post
    You know you're an ISTJ when you organize all the radio stations in your car by ascending order.
    I have done this in every car that I've owned.
    I also alphabetize my CD collection ... and the last time I checked, I had close to 2,000 CD's.
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  5. #225
    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers

    Quote Originally Posted by niss63 View Post
    You might be an ISTJ if you sit through a semester of class dreading group discussions.
    +1 for online classes.

    I can participate in the required group discussions (postings) just as well as anyone else. In fact, I've got a little bet with myself; I usually end up getting flamed by the second or third week (because I've stated a dissenting, but valid, opinion). I have a sneaking suspicion that I might break my standing record this week in my new classes.

    All of my classes this semester are online classes, BTW.
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  6. #226
    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers

    Quote Originally Posted by Sela View Post
    I have done this in every car that I've owned.
    I also alphabetize my CD collection ... and the last time I checked, I had close to 2,000 CD's.
    I approach this differently. I rip the CD's into mp3's and play them on whatever storage device I am currently using. The CD is then tossed into a tub, probably never to see the light of day again.
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  7. #227
    Unknown Personality

    Quote Originally Posted by Achi View Post
    If you didn't rant it then I would have. IMO the whole school system needs to be redone, it's already obvious the current one doesn't work that well.


    You know you're an ISTJ when you organize all the radio stations in your car by ascending order.
    I think as a society we should look at China and create our school systems similar to theirs. As far as I've read they don't have drastically under funded schools, and they're liable to set standards, test, and demote people based on that score. The thing is that they boot some people from school around the age of 15 as I recall, sending them to their sweat shops.

    It's an example of how things could work, and are elsewhere.
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  8. #228
    Unknown Personality

    Quote Originally Posted by niss63 View Post
    If you have a "feeler" teacher and you are not participating in class (hello introverts!) then the teacher may be less inclined to cut you slack seeing as you are not measuring up to their standards for participation.
    I like to show that I know the material well, perhaps even go above and beyond to embrace the class to their greatest expectations. Participation is something that comes naturally.
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  9. #229
    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I like to show that I know the material well, perhaps even go above and beyond to embrace the class to their greatest expectations. Participation is something that comes naturally.
    I don't think most ISTJs would view breaking out into group discussions, raising your hand to volunteer information for discussion, or similar type classroom discussions in a favorable light. I know I didn't find those things to be particularly enjoyable when I was in school--regardless of age.
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  10. #230
    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers

    i found the way to avoid teacher being on my ass i socialise with them work wonder
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