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This is a discussion on Enneagram Instinctual Variations Revisted within the ISTJ Forum - The Duty Fulfillers forums, part of the SJ's Temperament Forum- The Overseers category; Some background: Way back when, I took the instinctual variations for my enneagram in response to someone's questions about our ...

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    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers

    Enneagram Instinctual Variations Revisted

    Some background: Way back when, I took the instinctual variations for my enneagram in response to someone's questions about our instinctual variations. Originally my results were SP/SO/SX.



    Thanks to some comments by @pinkrasputin I realized that I had taken that test at a particularly low time in my life (when stressed out, feeling extremely defensive and angry, etc). So I retook the test just now:



    I'm curious if anyone else has had such a marked change in their instinctual variant type.

    (Out of interest for @MBTI Enthusiast I am now testing as a 9w1 enneagram.)

    And the test that I took was this one: Enneagram Variant Test
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    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers

    Not as much as yours, but yes.

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    With numbers as low as that though, I'm wondering if they even matter.
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    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers

    Out of interest, here was my original:

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    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers


    Quote Originally Posted by Yardiff Bey View Post
    (Out of interest for @MBTI Enthusiast I am now testing as a 9w1 enneagram.)
    Weren't you always?

    My results:

    Sexual ||||||||||||||| 46%
    Social |||||||||||||||||| 54%
    Self Preservation ||||||||||||||||||||| 66%

    I'm pretty sure I'm sp/sx though. I think the high so comes from the 3 in my tritype, not necessarily the instinct itself.

    Here's some more info for the Nines who have posted:

    Self-Preservation
    Self-Preservation Nines are perhaps the most easygoing Nines, but they are also the most likely to need time alone, untroubled by other people's influence and requirements. They seek a sense of well-being through comfort: familiar routines, "comfort foods," and a supportive, uncomplicated environment are all highly valued. Self-Pres Nines have their own way of doing things, their own pace, and their own philosophy of life, and they will stubbornly resist any effort to change any of these things. Self-Pres Nines are also people of few words, preferring to communicate in nonverbal ways. They often pretend to be less savvy and aware than they actually are, as if tempting other people to underestimate them—so that they will be left alone. Positively, they are grounded and patient, possessing a great deal of common sense. They tend to have problems with overindulging themselves in food and drink, or conversely with rigorously controlling their diets—this is especially true of Self-Pres Nines with the One wing. They may also lack physical exercise. In any case, having their routine and lifestyle change is very challenging for them.

    Sexual
    Sexual Nines seek a sense of well-being by finding something or someone to merge with. They want to be at one with the world, with beauty, with nature, but especially with a special, ideal lover. That being said, Sexual Nines have many anxieties about losing themselves by submerging their identity in the other. Thus, they can sometimes appear ambivalent and emotionally conflicted, like Fours or Sixes. They sometimes attempt to "solve" the inner conflict between their desire for merging and their desire for independence by "triangulation." They engage in two separate, simultaneous relationships that serve different needs while never completely showing up in either. Needless to say, this can create the kinds of conflicts that Nines are trying to avoid.

    The overall affect of Sexual Nines is one of gentleness, ease, and flow, and they seek these qualities in others and in the environment. They also tend to be highly sensual, enjoying tastes, textures, and sensations. Although they resemble Fours in this regard, being ethereal and dreamy, their sensuality is earthy and embodied, and they are not as self-aware or self-doubting as Fours. Sexual Nines tend to be more imaginative than the other Variants—often with elements of gentle whimsy and heroic fantasy. They see the world in magical terms, investing even ordinary objects with a warm glow. They seem to take in the world with a wide-eyed wonder and have a characteristic child-like aura about them.

    Social
    Social Nines seek a sense of well being through social connection and friendship. People of this variant may often not seem like Nines because they are usually more outgoing, active, and involved in their world. There is more warmth and affection expressed by Nines of this variant. They tend to be idealistic and are often supportive of causes, acting as the "social glue" in many organizations and groups. But even in the midst of social activity, Social Nines remain strangely unaware of and unaffected by the problems of others. They are drawn to situations in which they feel they can belong, but they also internally hold themselves apart—usually by emotionally distancing themselves from others while maintaining an outward friendliness.

    Since Social Nines tend to be affable and cheerful and enjoy having different experiences, they can resemble Sevens. They also tend to be more task-oriented: they enjoy working on projects and being involved in meaningful activities with others, so they can also resemble Threes. Unlike Threes, however, Social Nines have difficulty sustaining efforts on their own behalf. They do not easily pursue their own goals and tend to get sidetracked by social interactions and others' needs and agendas.

    (Source)
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    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers

    I just took it and got this. Not sure what it means.

    Sexual |||||||||||| 38%
    Social |||||||||||||||||||||||| 74%
    Self Preservation |||||||||||||||||||||||| 78%
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaisyChain View Post
    I just took it and got this. Not sure what it means.

    Sexual |||||||||||| 38%
    Social |||||||||||||||||||||||| 74%
    Self Preservation |||||||||||||||||||||||| 78%
    Well let's figure out your enneagram type and then we'd have something. :)
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    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers

    @DaisyChain- It suggests that you're an sp/so/sx of the enneagram type you are.
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    Looked at the questions and thought better of it. Too easy to guess which type the question was asking about and/or throw the test. Might take it another time, but tonight is not a good time for those reasons.
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    ENFP - The Inspirers

    Wow. I usually don't believe in tests, especially for finding your ennea type but I just took that variant test and it really reflected my reality:


    Sexual |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 82%
    Social ||||||||||||||||||||| 70%
    Self Preservation |||||||||||| 34%


    But maybe that is because I'm already well aware of my instinct stacking and to which degree. I already knew I was sx/so............sp

    I remember once upon a time I mistyped as so/sx. I didn't want to take the most obvious route. I needed to test something else out first. But I think that is pretty normal for a 6 to do. I test the shit out of something first before I go with it. And I've had the most growth from typing my instinct stacking correctly (sx/so). A lot of things I've done or do make a lot of sense now. I think that is key: you start to really grow once you type yourself right.
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    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers


    I think it's more interesting to look at the descriptions sometimes, too, rather than testing for instinctual variants. I never would have guessed my dad is a Type 5 so variant if I didn't read the specific description on it.
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