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This is a discussion on Why do you think other people see you as childish? within the ISFP Forum - The Artists forums, part of the SP's Temperament Forum- The Creators category; Originally Posted by Nayru I'm not that childish, honestly. But you have an aversion to sex?! Ouch... Your missing some ...

  1. #11
    ISFP - The Artists

    Quote Originally Posted by Nayru View Post
    I'm not that childish, honestly.

    But you have an aversion to sex?! Ouch... Your missing some of the best things in life! I don't know what you've learned about sex, what experiences you've have with it... but sex really isn't "bad" or "dirty" and nothing you need to have an aversion towards! Aversion is an intense word to be using when describing sex (and drinking / partying too, by the way)



    That doesn't mean you need or should have sex with any dumbass you meet... or get drunk every night, or party 5 nights a week.

    Maybe you're just scared of it. Yeah. Could it be that you're just really afraid of it, that it makes you so uncertain that you try to make sex/partying/drinking all wrong rather than admit you're just scared and feel like you can't do those things. So you just tell yourself you have an "aversion" towards those things, rather than admitting & facing your fears of not being good enough.

    But then secretly you envy those confident drinking, partying, sex-having bastards and bitches. Secretly you'd love to be the carefree spirit who can occasionally enjoy socializing, partying with your friends, get a bit tipsy--maybe even drunk, and not be afraid to enjoy heavenly and evil sex with that attractive cute & sexy as hell guy. (who you hate and condemn too because you don't believe he could be interested in you anyway, so you make him and the girls around him wrong so you don't feel like you're not good enough). Does any of this ring true at all?

    ...Anyway. I could be wrong!
    o0o0o nonono, I have an aversion to those three in the way that other people seem to do it. Everything is g in moderation, except maybe clubbing, in which all three kind of mesh together in excess. Drinks are great when you don't plan on throwing up what you've drank, partying is fun if you're responsible about it, and though I can't say this out of experience, I'm sure sex is good if not with a guy you've known for maybe two weeks xD (I might hesitate at the notion of commitment, however I would rather it in this sense) The way people around me do it is just plain stupid to me though, because I just can't understand it; causing more problems than what it's really worth. It might have something to do with upbringing, but I find that touchy-feeliness and sex too intimate a thing to be doing with just anyone. I'll have to agree that I secretly do envy those confident asses, but more the freedom they seem to project rather than their physical actions.

    I should've clarified, my bad :x
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  2. #12
    ENFP - The Inspirers

    LOL, you sound very mature to me @amatsuki :) That's not a childish attitude at all
    Last edited by Nevermind_me; 09-03-2012 at 04:44 AM. Reason: added a LOL, this is ironic considering what we're discussing :)
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  3. #13
    ISFP - The Artists

    @Nevermind_me
    Ah, I totally get that! It's nice because conversation just flows so easily! I'll have to visit the ENFP forum some time c:

    It's all about perception, baby ;)
    Last edited by amatsuki; 09-03-2012 at 05:05 AM. Reason: CAUSE YOU POSTED BEFORE I POSTED
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  4. #14
    ISFP - The Artists

    o0o0o nonono, I have an aversion to those three in the way that other people seem to do it. Everything is g in moderation, except maybe clubbing, in which all three kind of mesh together in excess. Drinks are great when you don't plan on throwing up what you've drank, partying is fun if you're responsible about it, and though I can't say this out of experience, I'm sure sex is good if not with a guy you've known for maybe two weeks xD (I might hesitate at the notion of commitment, however I would rather it in this sense) The way people around me do it is just plain stupid to me though, because I just can't understand it; causing more problems than what it's really worth. It might have something to do with upbringing, but I find that touchy-feeliness and sex too intimate a thing to be doing with just anyone. I'll have to agree that I secretly do envy those confident asses, but more the freedom they seem to project rather than their physical actions.

    I should've clarified, my bad :x
    @amatsuki : Hey I'm glad you look at it this way. I am all about challenging our limitations and our fears, I really want the best for you and anyone. Because I have envied those people myself, and used to pidgeonhole people who were confident and did those things as "superficial people" etc... when in reality I was just scared. I recognized that in your story and had to say something.
    @Nevermind_me : Well I like to challenge my own and other peoples limiting beliefs when I spot some... It's never my intent to hurt, I respect anyone and want to help. I guess I wasn't aware that it would come off condescending or negative to some. Sorry!

    Peace & love always
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  5. #15
    ENFP - The Inspirers

    @Nayru, don't worry, sorry too, I am a bit hormonal today I think, just perhaps be aware sometimes your phrasing comes across as quite confrontational, I didn't feel amatsuki deserved such harsh words, but I over reacted also.

    Every blessing to you too :)
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  6. #16
    ISFP - The Artists

    @Nayru Hey, no worries man; Everyone's entitled to their own opinion!



  7. #17
    ISFP - The Artists

    I make weird noises randomly, chase after animals in the middle of a crowd... basically do whatever I want whenever I feel like it, just like a little kid. I guess strong Fi users would appear child-like too.
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  8. #18
    ISFJ - The Nurturers

    I tend to stop - sometimes mid conversation - to look at something that catches my eye and then gush about it in a childlike way. Think about a child opening a present on Christmas day: that's how I am every time I see a cute (or any) dog, a nice outfit, something shiny, a flower...

    I also tend to have what people perceive as a naively upbeat attitude. I'm reliably cheerful, which is a trait unfortunately associated with children or stupid people. :( I think it's a part of what someone mentioned earlier about not getting caught up in the more serious, 'adult' aspects of life.
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  9. #19
    ISFP - The Artists

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebird View Post
    I make weird noises randomly, chase after animals in the middle of a crowd... basically do whatever I want whenever I feel like it, just like a little kid. I guess strong Fi users would appear child-like too.
    Oh my god, I do that. In my case I make bird noises, but I'm actually certain birds understand me because they talk back. :')
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  10. #20
    ISFP - The Artists

    There's nothing wrong with having a childlike sense of wonder at the many good things in the world. Watching butterflies and bees on the sedum flowers in our back yard is one of my favorite things to do these days. If someone else wants to call that childish or immature, I've learned they can't be stopped, but also I remember they aren't right, either.

    Fortunately my spouse P. understands me. The other day I saw two young rabbits in the back yard, near the shed under which they likely live. I pointed them out to P., probably with more enthusiasm than most people would, and wasn't worried about getting a strange look in return.
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