[LeaT]

@LeaT @SA1988 @Graficcha

Thanks for all your descriptions/thoughts on this :)

I do understand the bit about external stimuli being exhausting for an introvert, but aren't they eventually exhausting for an extravert too? Doesn't everybody need some time of rest now and then? Be it with or without people... Stimuli are exhausting for the mind in general. Your senses need a rest every now and then.

I still feel like a mixture of both I and E. It really depends on my mood, the situation, etc... if I'm bothered by external stimuli or not. Sometimes I walk around completely oblivious to the outside world, completely sucked into my own thoughts and fantasies, and sometimes I'm very involved with everybody around me. I suppose more often than not I'm a bit head-in-the-cloudsy though.

Others have typed me both as an introvert and as an extravert, and I can't seem to make any sense of it myself either.

There are people that fall in the middle.

[Dimensional Transition]

Of course they are, for some it comes quicker than for others. That's exactly why it's a gradient and not a binary.

It's just really obvious when in a class you and two others decide to go to bed before ten p.m. in high school during a class camp, and the rest parties on until at three a.m. a few diehards are still going.
Everyone's tired after that, but some can carry on longer and need less recovery time. Introverst can say 'agh, half an hour alone isn't even marginally enough to really cool down'. For some extraverts half an hour of building excitement doesn't get them to the summum of feel-goods yet either, heh.

Yeah, that's pretty much how I view it too. In that case, I really do fall just in the middle. It surprises me that there's not a majority of people in this midway between of introversion and extraversion. I suppose a lot of people just really want to belong to a certain group, because most people I have met seem to just be in between a real extravert and introvert.

[Graficcha]

Yeah, that's pretty much how I view it too. In that case, I really do fall just in the middle. It surprises me that there's not a majority of people in this midway between of introversion and extraversion. I suppose a lot of people just really want to belong to a certain group, because most people I have met seem to just be in between a real extravert and introvert.

Perhaps the internet polarizes the representations a little (perhaps? in terms of introvert representation most definitely), and while the gradients are said to be ideally normally distributed, I do believe that due to underlying chemical mechanisms in the brain, and there clearly being such a thing as a bold-shy continuum even in freaking damselflies, it is possibly more realistic to assume that 'closer towards the extremes but not completely at a rigid extreme' could be favoured more/have more clear strengths to exploit than the 'entirely smack dab in the middle' position.

On that note, how do you even define a 'middle' properly on this? You can't really go ahead and decide that 'exactly this balance of introverted and extraverted behaviours and/or attitudes' is 'the middle'.

I personally rather see it as a sort of curve with 'quite a few people around the middle', two sections 'clearly tending towards the extreme' and the outliers of extremely one-sided behaviour (that are often so extreme it creates adaptive problems in counter-natural situations).

I do like identifying as introverted (and not just to make an excuse for my reclusiveness, as my mother says) because it feels much like me, and allows me to understand and accept how I react to my surroundings and people, though I have no problems with stepping out of my bubble every now and then, and I don't resent those who live outside their own either.

[tangosthenes]

Perhaps the internet polarizes the representations a little (perhaps? in terms of introvert representation most definitely), and while the gradients are said to be ideally normally distributed, I do believe that due to underlying chemical mechanisms in the brain, and there clearly being such a thing as a bold-shy continuum even in freaking damselflies, it is possibly more realistic to assume that 'closer towards the extremes but not completely at a rigid extreme' could be favoured more/have more clear strengths to exploit than the 'entirely smack dab in the middle' position.

On that note, how do you even define a 'middle' properly on this? You can't really go ahead and decide that 'exactly this balance of introverted and extraverted behaviours and/or attitudes' is 'the middle'.

I personally rather see it as a sort of curve with 'quite a few people around the middle', two sections 'clearly tending towards the extreme' and the outliers of extremely one-sided behaviour (that are often so extreme it creates adaptive problems in counter-natural situations).

I do like identifying as introverted (and not just to make an excuse for my reclusiveness, as my mother says) because it feels much like me, and allows me to understand and accept how I react to my surroundings and people, though I have no problems with stepping out of my bubble every now and then, and I don't resent those who live outside their own either.

It's bell curve time!

[Graficcha]

It's bell curve time!

Oh do I EVER love the BELL curve~ *heart heart* *swoon swoon*

Heheheheh.

[Valiums]

:/

I could really use that delete post function.

[Neurasthenia]

This old ENFJ friend from my freshman year of college reactivated his facebook after about a year and a half (it was too much of a waste of his precious hipster time; it was not cool to have a facebook).

In good spirits, because we've made a couple movements to rekindle our friendships, I left a nice "good to see you back on the web" post, and all he can say is "hi".

Then I see his posts with his other hipster friends in his language that is so unnecessarily complex as to not be anything other than a clear attempt to separate himself from the legions of peons beneath him who don't have cool bands, clothes, and sociopolitical ideals.

I swear, seeing it was such a clear example of this hipster elitism that I've come to resent over my time in college that I almost wanted to unenroll... I go to the most hipster college in the US (save for maybe Reed). Fucking hell. What a mistake that was.

[Svensenberg]

Dear sky:

If you're going to rain, FUCKING DO IT ALREADY! I'm tired of more lightning and wind than rain. C'mon man, be a team player! I've got a garden out there, son. Help a brother out

[Neurasthenia]

Dear sky:

If you're going to rain, FUCKING DO IT ALREADY! I'm tired of more lightning and wind than rain. C'mon man, be a team player! I've got a garden out there, son. Help a brother out

Dood, there's been lots of lightning in different parts of the world this season. Is that lightning usual for your area this time of year?

[Svensenberg]

Dood, there's been lots of lightning in different parts of the world this season. Is that lightning usual for your area this time of year?

Not at all, but it usually comes with rain. It's been a historic drought around here, hence the wildfire madness. When I was in Alaska though, there was a lightning storm in Denali and all of the locals were amazed... the servers at the restaurant I was at literally stopped working and went outside to watch the lightning. Apparently that never happens around there. Weather has been weird everywhere,I agree.