[nadjasix]

Guilty pleasure. I can't help but love her. She acts like she was raised in the wild by a pack of drag queens.

[alextyrian]

Guilty pleasure. I can't help but love her. She acts like she was raised in the wild by a pack of drag queens.

Why the guilt? That video is an aesthetic masterpiece. It's pop art, but it's still art.

[nadjasix]

Why the guilt? That video is an aesthetic masterpiece. It's pop art, but it's still art.

You're totally right, but most people don't have any understanding of art, so they either like the song because it's popular, or hate it because it's not "real music" and ignore the AMAZING VIDEO.

[WhereverIMayRoam]

http://www.esnips.com/displayimage.php?pid=2168917

[nadjasix]

[Richard]

You're totally right, but most people don't have any understanding of art, so they either like the song because it's popular, or hate it because it's not "real music" and ignore the AMAZING VIDEO.

What do you mean when you say “understanding of art” ?
I can understand experience adding to the richness and depth of feeling when appreciating art, but understanding art makes less sense for me.

[Paris877]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUWzeOcBYxI

I think I might be a little obsessed with this song. Listened to it about ten times today....

[Paris877]

Hmmm. How do I get my posts to show the actual video and not just a link?

[nadjasix]

What do you mean when you say “understanding of art” ?
I can understand experience adding to the richness and depth of feeling when appreciating art, but understanding art makes less sense for me.

There are formal rules that govern aesthetics just like there are for math. But they're complex, and invisible to most people. Plus, there are aesthetic references that not everyone can pick up on buried in there. For example, the part where Nicki's eyes are distorted so they're very large is a reference to the "big eyed waif" kitsch painters from the 70s, e.g. Margaret Keane and M. Madeiros.

[Richard]

There are formal rules that govern aesthetics just like there are for math. But they're complex, and invisible to most people. Plus, there are aesthetic references that not everyone can pick up on buried in there. For example, the part where Nicki's eyes are distorted so they're very large is a reference to the "big eyed waif" kitsch painters from the 70s, e.g. Margaret Keane and M. Madeiros.

I can understand formal rules like those found in music, despite the subjective nature of it, that most people agree on to some extent. Formal rules in art that remain invisible to the large majority of people, I understand less. I would have thought that a formal rule in art would highlight certain aspects of aesthetic appreciation that are shared by most as opposed to something that could be appreciated by only those in the know. Perhaps some appreciation is drawn from acknowledging the difficultly required in observing some of these formal rules ?(I am by no means a student of art as I’m sure is apparent)

I can understand being happy when identifying a reference but I don’t see how that affects appreciation of art either.

My definition of visual art is perhaps a tad simple, I’m more interested in the shapes, colours, techniques and textures than I am in the culture surrounding it.