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This is a discussion on INTJ answer to the half empty, half full question within the INTJ Forum - The Scientists forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; Originally Posted by Pac-Man In a practical situation (not solely theoretical, where a flawlessly balanced hypothesis is possible), I would ...
Well, in regard to the philosophical position the answer might be: both.
It's half full of water, and half full of air.
How does the glass' contents or lack thereof affect my goals?
If it doesn't impact us, the glass ceases to exist until such a time as it has implications for what we want to achieve.
If the liquid in the glass is preventing whatever goal we have in mind, it's half full and needs to be emptied.
If the liquid missing from the glass is preventing whatever goal we have in mind, it's half empty and needs to be filled.
empty or full, what matters is - are the glass and its contents mine
Well technically "full" or "empty" is just a human misinterpretation granted by our inability to think or exist outside of the third dimension or anywhere, really, on a molecular level.
I ask you: does the glass really even exist? It is only so much space, with but a few insignificant particles, each themselves made of even smaller components, moving about in such a way and in such proximity to us that we have the illusion of what we call a "solid" object. The question that remains is: how do we break this illusion of a bond? Shape matter to our will? The greatest powers of the universe, creation and destruction, and shackled to this knowledge. I think this a greater question to ask ourselves than some pseudo-philosophical nonsense about if it is or is not filled with an unnamed liquid.
Moreover, what does it matter if the glass is full or empty if we know not what it within it? It makes little sense to consider the question if we do not consider what use such liquid or otherwise might be in its present state. If it is half filled with water? Air? Sealed? Unsealed? Is it worth money? Would it be morally objectionable to some organization somewhere?
Our labeling of this oddity must be done only upon collection of adequate knowledge. Only then may a plan for its assessment and subsequent usage be contemplated.
Ahem. If I may attempt to solve this supposed riddle, please consider the following:
As human beings we prefer to categorize things, to "label" them. As such we have certain words to define states of these things - states of matter. To define what something is. In three dimensions this is fine, a word - nothing more than an idea - is a perfect antipodal to an object just as the intangible is the companion part to the tangible.
However, we forget that these states change, that time elapses with or without our presence. Therefore, if the glass began full and is now at half it's maximum capacity, then it is "half empty." If the glass began empty and is now at half it's maximum capacity, then it is "half full." These are the changes of state with respect to the flow of time and have nothing to do with the amount of water, which half of the glass is acting as the container, or the personality of the individual who is observing the state.
What this comes down to in the end is choice. If you don't know which state the glass began in, then you must choose to ignore the situation or to hope. And hope, or irrational optimism perhaps, is what we have left when there is no other choice.
Thus, hopefully - or irrationally - the glass will be half full if you want it to be. Otherwise, you know what state the glass was in, you know what state the glass is in, and you have to make a conscious decision as to what you believe.
Rawr, I've been up way too long; if the above doesn't make any sense - even after several proof reads - I'm sorry. It's time for Spades to go to bed. Z_z
P.S. Varulfr: Time is the fourth dimension. History is proof that while we may not live in it, we move through it and can observe it easily.
I am a glass half empty kind of person...if I am looking at a literal glass of water, I will see emptiness because the water is mot filled to the capacity of the glass. Figuratively, I am a pretty pessimistic person. :(
I also don't like to see a cookie jar half empty...because that means I am almost finished with cookies...NOOOO!