This is a discussion on INTJ's and a Life Purpose within the INTJ Forum - The Scientists forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; Originally Posted by Abraxas If it's any consolation, this happened to me and really messed my life up a lot. ...
i think you and i are similar to this end, i honestly cannot go on without a purpose, it's private though.
it's like if you don't have a destination that you WANT to reach, then what's the next step?, according to what will you take action? get it? you maybe among the minority of people who do.
I may not be able to communicate this to anyone clearly because i haven't really stacked it into words in my mind, but i hope it's worth something.
I would love to see this thread remain, as opposed to the silly ones.
who the heck does the stickying?
SPtheGhost, if plans and purpose being *very* distinct entities.
I've always thought the 'questioning of human/personal purpose' thing to be stupid and misguided. There needn't be a 'purpose' to life, the assumption that this is not the case is a bad one.
As for plans... mine are numerous. Some of the more general/vague goals that motivate those plans are to fall in love, to create an impact that spans more than just my company, and to accumulate enough wealth and/or power to pursue only what interests me (I don't think I'd be likely to ever stop working, I'd just rather be working on what I find to be extraordinary, not just what someone else finds profitable). Those would obviously be some of the more difficult goals.
I don't have any solid plans or goals or defined purpose; more like life strategies. Life has too many variables and I've seen people get really fucked up over their goals/plans getting jacked. I'd rather stay flexible. The strategy is to be open, exploratory, and take advantage of opportunities. Basically to stay interested in being alive and not box myself in.
haha this thread is perfect :)
I have several life plans. plan A, B, and C.
Plan A. (I won't go into full detail because I would write a novel.)
Move to Hawaii and go to college, find a good paying job, buy an apartment. Then find a tattoo shop willing to hire me, and work. Then tan and relax on my days off.
Get more into my modeling career and make some money. Then move to Hawaii and buy a nice house, and live happily ever after.
This is one of my more crazy plans, but still very rational. If any of my other plans don't work out, I want to leave, Just leave this society. I would buy a boat. And a ton of supplies like water, and food ect. then sail the ocean until I find an abandoned little island. I would plants seeds, to grow like bananas and coconuts. Then fish for food. and boil sea water, so I could drink it. And then I could just live on that island alone and in peace. without any rules. and just me, myself, and I.
Those are my plans :) They are more detailed and complete in reality.
I basically feel like everything else is meaningless if I don't stick to my own road that I thought up years ago, although I keep changing the means to get to it so I'm not as linear as I may seem. I decided that this would be what my life is about and there's no turning back.
When I'm a bit down and life kinda beings telling me "You're going to fail at this, dude." I just don't know what to do, I really just rage until I find a way to contradict the current condition. So yeah, I don't know another way to be happy without this. That's the reason to this thread, I was hoping to, dunno, see how everyone else feels and thinks about this in order to maybe help myself out.
It didn't help out but it did give nice information, overall.
PS: I did find a way to fight back this time through other means though.
I have neither plan nor purpose anymore and the existential crisis caused by that is slowly driving me crazy.
"If i found a job, a project, an ideal or a person I wanted ----- I'd have to depend on the whole world. Everything has strings leading to everything else. We're all so tied up altogether. We're all in a net, the net is waiting, and, we're pushed into it by one single desire. You want a thing and it's precious to you. Do you know who is standing ready to tear it out of your hands? You can't know, it may be some so involved and so far away, but someone is ready, and you're afraid of them all. And you just cringe and crawl and you beg and you accept them ---- just so they'll let you keep it. And look at whom you come to accept."
But indeed, we all want independence but we'll always be dependent on something. But now let me throw the question: Do you really want to be 100% independent?
Because that means being alone not needing anyone for anything.