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  1. #41
    INTJ - The Scientists

    I honestly have no idea why we are so rare. But I have theory for it....most of us don't exactly understand people, and why they do what they do. We don't like to be judged so most of the time we keep to ourselves. I personally don't let many people into my personal life, and generally I won't carry on a conversation about my life with someone I'm not very close with. We also keep our friends for a VERY long time. I have had the same best friend for 14 years. So we honestly don't ever feel the need to add another person to our 'inner circle'. You probably meet more of us INTJs online because we are more comfortable where people don't see us, and we are 'protected' by a little screen. We can socialize better this way because we feel as if we can have more control of what happens. On the computer if we don't want to talk to someone we can just log off. But in real life we can't do that. We would literally have to stand there and pretend we care about a meaningless little chat.
    The reason it seems as if we change from being an INTJ to another personality is because we can pretend to be something else very very well. We could easily be the chameleon of the human world. But most of us don't ever really care what others think so we are fine with being odd, or different from the normal person. And yes, many parents are not very fond of the idea that their child is anti-social. I know my parents aren't. they were not pleased when I was home on a friday night sitting on the couch watching Tv. So my guess would be that many children do change their personalities when they are called 'anti-social'. Just to please their parents.
    Females are probably extremely rare because we are more susceptible to be criticized. Girls judge other girls very harshly. So many teenagers change their clothes, hair, and personality just to fit in. But INTJs that are really self-confident won't change for others even when we are catergorized as 'strange' or 'weird'. So that's basically my theory why us INTJs are so rare. I'm not saying this is 100% true. But I'm usually right, so I wouldn't doubt that it is.
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  2. #42
    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by Blekh View Post
    Seriously though. Why are INTJs so rare? The only place I've met so many INTJs is in the online world. And yes, I know that finding them in real life is hard but that's not my question.

    It is scientifically proven that you are born with a predefined personality. However, I've read that someone's personality can change over time or due to some life-changing events. Would people see themselves as INTJs and then try to change to some other personality type? Why would they want to change, anyway? There's nothing wrong with being an INTJ.

    You can't really inherit your parents' personalities. Heredity establishes the limits of one's personality traits that can be developed, while the environment - represented by the cultural, social and situational factors - influences the actual development within the limits.

    So, why are INTJs so rare? Is it because parents would view introversion as being "anti-social" (although this would be for introverts in general and not just INTJs)? Or it could be because of social influences (there are more Extroverts and Introverts and kids are easily influenced). And lastly, Female INTJs are even rarer than male INTJs and why is that?

    Is it just that there are loads of INTJs all over the world who pretend that they're not INTJs just to fit in? But if they do that, then they're not really INTJs, are they?
    That sounded to me like a contradiction and I'd like to see evidence of this predefined personality deal.
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  3. #43
    INTJ - The Scientists

    We are so rare because we defy the norms of society. Everybody is expected to follow a tradition, a ritual, expectations, norms, trends etc. and when someone behaves differently, that's how someone view the different one as weird. Personality doesn't change because it is our natural way to function to the world and whether you like it or not or try to change yourself for others, there is still part of you that is unalterable. From 6-12 years, your dominant Introverted Intuition has already formed. Teen years=auxiliary function Extraverted Thinking. Tertiary function Introverted Feeling is developed from early 20's to 50's. Inferior function Extraverted Sensing will have developed at age 50-until death. So, that means Ni-Te will dominate your life for as long as you live. I'll take my personal experience as an example. INTJs at their stressed level is functioning at their inferior function which is Se(Extraverted Sensing).

    In my college years, almost all students are SPs. And there are bunch of ESTPs who care nothing for studies and value external appearance and socializing over intellectual pursuits. They always talk about the latest fashion, gimmicks, trends, gadgets, etc. And because I was different and my classmates view me as intelligent, I don't particularly pay attention to the way I look. Not until some ESTP male bullied me about the way I look. Ever since then, I became conscious of my appearance. I can't do anything but to socialize to my ESTP female classmates and they would tell me what clothes suit me, what makeup looks good on me. Because ESTps are Se-doms, they have an eye for fashion, something that I lack because of inferior Se. In my stressed level, I have used my Se which is the shadow function of an INTJ. I was obsessed with how I look, I bought and collect make-ups, bought clothes that are "in", attended parties. That was in my late teen years. That behavior is very unusual for me as I see myself as a hermit and my ESTP friends just pulled me at my shell. I thought maybe that time that I've changed my personality.

    But now that I don't interact with them anymore, my original self and way of thinking just goes back. I don't obsess with buying and collecting makeup, I don't buy clothes if I don't need it, I don't follow every trend that comes up. Just as long as I don't look awful, and I have a good hygiene and proper makeup, I'm OK with that. I'm not functioning at my inferior function Se anymore, that, back then I thought I have changed.

  4. #44
    Unknown Personality


    Because I engage them in battle, defeat them, and absorb their powers.
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  5. #45
    Unknown Personality

    Quote Originally Posted by Action Potential View Post
    Because I engage them in battle, defeat them, and absorb their powers.
    There can be only one.

    Once all INTJness have converged into the ‹bermensch, it will have fully realized apotheosis.
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  6. #46
    INTJ - The Scientists

    There are as many INTJs as there needs to be. If everyone is a leader, who is going to follow? And who is going to take the jobs that no intuitive would want? There is a part in Brave New World where they tried to create a society with only the smartest people. Everyone tried to climb to the top of the ladder and screwed up the social system. They were poor at performing the lower in jobs and miserable, and they didn't even function economically.

    Historically, it would also have been more useful for people to be sensors. Other than intellectual tasks, for something like say, hunting, you only needed one INTJ to build the system. Then, SP's come in and use that system better than the INTJ could himself.

    Though, over the past few decades, the number of people testing as intuitives has increased, at least in America, probably becuase of the shift in schooling towards teaching students to analyze and be creative. Though, it may only be a change in the way the test was interpreted (mistyping becuase of how "creativity" has come to be viewed more positively, thus affected how people respond. for example).

  7. #47
    INTJ - The Scientists

    Myself-my ex-one of my nephews and one of my nieces are INTJs. The only time anyone would ever have the opportunity to meet one of us would be at our home, work, or school. We do not go to social events or anything unless we are dragged, literally.

  8. #48
    ENTJ - The Executives

    Darwin. Natural selection.

    1. Women don't get INTJ men.
    2. INTJ women don't care as much about getting dolled up, that whole ritual.

    That equates to very few INTJ children out there.

    Just a guess.
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  9. #49
    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by coolcats View Post
    I honestly have no idea why we are so rare. But I have theory for it....most of us don't exactly understand people, and why they do what they do. We don't like to be judged so most of the time we keep to ourselves. I personally don't let many people into my personal life, and generally I won't carry on a conversation about my life with someone I'm not very close with. We also keep our friends for a VERY long time. I have had the same best friend for 14 years. So we honestly don't ever feel the need to add another person to our 'inner circle'. You probably meet more of us INTJs online because we are more comfortable where people don't see us, and we are 'protected' by a little screen. We can socialize better this way because we feel as if we can have more control of what happens. On the computer if we don't want to talk to someone we can just log off. But in real life we can't do that. We would literally have to stand there and pretend we care about a meaningless little chat.
    The reason it seems as if we change from being an INTJ to another personality is because we can pretend to be something else very very well. We could easily be the chameleon of the human world. But most of us don't ever really care what others think so we are fine with being odd, or different from the normal person. And yes, many parents are not very fond of the idea that their child is anti-social. I know my parents aren't. they were not pleased when I was home on a friday night sitting on the couch watching Tv. So my guess would be that many children do change their personalities when they are called 'anti-social'. Just to please their parents.
    Females are probably extremely rare because we are more susceptible to be criticized. Girls judge other girls very harshly. So many teenagers change their clothes, hair, and personality just to fit in. But INTJs that are really self-confident won't change for others even when we are catergorized as 'strange' or 'weird'. So that's basically my theory why us INTJs are so rare. I'm not saying this is 100% true. But I'm usually right, so I wouldn't doubt that it is.
    Wow...you just described me...where's the camera...you are freaking me out!
    Last edited by sri lanka; 04-19-2012 at 11:36 AM. Reason: typo
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  10. #50
    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by Portal View Post
    That sounded to me like a contradiction and I'd like to see evidence of this predefined personality deal.

    I can see what you are saying here. Not sure we pretend not to be INTJ...we just hate being judged without people getting to know us. So, we are quiet and try not to make issues out to nothing. We only show ourselves to those we find worthy.


 
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