[Blocklos]

I just returned from a rather entertaining evening of car shopping. I went with my Dad (INTJ) and we absolutely must be a nightmare for anyone trying to sell something. Inexpressive. Unimpressed. Knowledgeable. We had one poor car salesman sweating so badly after he presented us an offer and we both just sat there, typical death stare intact, looking at the number, not saying anything. Then looking at each other, not saying anything, then looking back at the number.
The guy could not read if we were insulted, enraged, confused, possibly having simultaneous latent seizures. He was freaked out. But anyway, we got one heck of a deal on a nice car at the end of the night, mainly because no one was pulling anything on either of us. We knew appropriate pricing and we weren't interested in playing footsie if it was improperly priced. Hilarious to see the 'smooth salesmen' squirm so much.



Have you ever been part of or experienced something similar to this in relation to a sales person, or anyone in general trying to persuade or convince you (or a group) of something, possibly just general BS that led to a funny situation? How did it all play out?

[hoom]

Hah, that's actually brilliant. Well done, put a smile on my face. No, I can't say I've ever done this, mostly because I haven't really had to buy something that you can haggle over... ever, but after reading this, sounds like a fun time . That being said, I definitely know what I'm buying when I get computer parts and such, I've done my research and all and make sure I get the best deal available, it just so happens that that always involves a change in purchasing venue and not haggling with a salesman.

[bethdeth]

Dating: The coffee date with someone who drinks tea not coffee, looks at you and waits for you to speak instead of being hair twirly and giggly. The person who says: "You think? I didn't like that movie at all...too much romancy stuff. It gave me rising bile."

[Bogspirit]

Yeah, I like proving people wrong when they patronize me because they take one look and make a lot of incredibly off-base assumptions about me based on my physical attributes. It's always fun to surprise them. Increasingly, it's fun to actually encourage this effect so I can set them up for a funner bigger surprise.

[octetstream]

Whenever people come to my door to collect donations I give them an uncomfortable stare, like I'm looking right through them. It's like they get lost for a moment, and then I smile and ask a question they're not expecting. I make them wait outside for a short period of time while I quickly google their organization to verify. They usually walk away with $5-$20 depending on the organization.

I do eye-stares with people at work depending on what I'm trying to impress upon them. Communication is a protocol for conveying data, and requires all sorts of body-language that INTJs are naturally not inclined to learn via mimicry; the way everyone else does. The protocols change depending on circumstances, and I've tended to put in more effort in my later years to determine the circumstances for protocol changes.

My ears also burn red when I'm under stress, and I've taught my wife that's a dead giveaway for when we need to change the conversation. Something's running faster in my head than the speed of her communication, and I'm either too confused to communication my confusion, or I've just jumped 5 steps ahead of what she's telling me.

[Intuition]

I'm an INTJ, also a highly successful salesperson :)

I love watching 'natural' salesmen try to sell to me, I analyze & pick apart their presentation whilst looking interested. (I am, but only in the sense that I'm leeching them for every bit of sales information they've got!)

The reason i excel specifically is because I KNOW how these salespeople think & how they operate, so can take on that set of skills when required. However because I'm also analytical, I know how to sell 'sexy specs' to customers who are only interested in that side of the product. Who cares what color it is, does it cut fuel consumption by 40% and will it hold up for 10 years? YES. SOLD. CLOSE. Happy. Nice.

You know the absolute worst thing you can say to a salesperson after he's spent 30 minutes trying to convince you to buy?

"Hmm...you know what, I'll think about it. Thanks for your time" KILLS it right on the spot.

Repeat "thanks for your time" and "thanks for your time, I'll think about it" as many times afterwards if they continue to try to pester you.

"I'm gonna shop around" "I can get it for less" etc etc. The bane of a salesperson's existence lol. Well, make em work for it I guess!

;)

[tooboku]

I was on the phone with DELL once. The sales guy went on about how most people preferred this or that. My reply "I'm not most people"

[Napoleptic]

Have you ever been part of or experienced something similar to this in relation to a sales person, or anyone in general trying to persuade or convince you (or a group) of something, possibly just general BS that led to a funny situation? How did it all play out?

The first place I went to look at cars the guy took me straight to a red convertible and said something about how I'd attract guys because I'd pull up beside them and they'd look over and see "a cute girl in a convertible". I shot him a look before I realized what I was doing, and he didn't try that tactic again. I've been told I'm scary when I give "The Look" - you know, the one your mother pins you with when you have your hand in the cookie jar that makes you put it back and close the lid without any dialogue having passed between you - apparently it's true.

You know the absolute worst thing you can say to a salesperson after he's spent 30 minutes trying to convince you to buy?

"Hmm...you know what, I'll think about it. Thanks for your time" KILLS it right on the spot.

Repeat "thanks for your time" and "thanks for your time, I'll think about it" as many times afterwards if they continue to try to pester you.

"I'm gonna shop around" "I can get it for less" etc etc. The bane of a salesperson's existence lol. Well, make em work for it I guess!

;)

This is precisely what I did. When I finally found a good car (one that had been owned by a rental agency so it was well-maintained and had low mileage), I told my parents as we were going into the office that I wasn't going to sign anything that day because I wanted to be sure I wasn't being persuaded by a salesperson with his sneaky manipulative tactics. So they got the papers ready for me, and I told them I wanted to think about it overnight. My mom kept pushing me to just go ahead and get it, saying, "But the car could be gone tomorrow!" I told her if that was the case I'd just find a different one, I didn't have to have this one. I knew perfectly well I could afford the car, but I wanted to review my decision while I wasn't under the influence of the salesman.

I found negotiating to be interesting - right before they drew up the paperwork, my dad winked at me and said "throw in a remote starter and the installation for no extra charge and we'll take it." I was surprised at how easily the guy agreed, and now I don't have to trudge out in the snow to start my car to let it warm up in the winter. :)

[javier]

I tend to do this when someone try to sell me something.