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This is a discussion on 16 types but only 4 models!!? within the INTJ Forum - The Scientists forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; i hope i don't sound crazy because i don't have nearly enough empirical evidence to support this but here it ...

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    16 types but only 4 models!!?

    i hope i don't sound crazy because i don't have nearly enough empirical evidence to support this but here it goes,



    we all know that there are 16 different temperaments, but i purpose that there are only 4 "models" of people which can develop into 4 different temperament or Identity based on their outlooks on life, personal history, environmental factors and other stuff that i probably should of taken the time to research ( but at this point i'm really just trying to see if anyone else has this view before i abandon it and prevent my self from going crazy). and how would i define these 4 models? here is how i categorize them
    (yes i understand people's body are completely different and based purely on their metabolism, caloric expenditure and diet but this is just a general trend I've noticed)
    1. (INFP,ENTJ,ISTP,ESFJ)
    I call these guy's " questers " may it be the idealist or the mechanic all 4 of these people are able to devote incomparable amount of time into a single cause, Community, interest, goal . most often i find these guys to be tall and lengthy.

    2.(INFJ,ENTP, ESTP, ISFJ)
    I call these guy's the "paradox" from the seemingly virtuous protector to the wheel and dealing of the Promoter( DOers) these guys all seem to have greatness in having great mental lucidity able to jungle many complex and creative problems in business, relationships. i call them the paradox because they tend to justice doing the bad for the good or doing the good for the bad lol see confusing right? but most of the time i find these people to be rather big boned ( not fat and fluffy )

    3.(ENFP,INTJ,ISFP,ESTJ)
    the " Beast " is the only way i can describe people of this breed for they are all Beasts!?!? From the relentless mastermind to the soulful artist, they are the master of the image and the self. fully engulfed in their realities by their supreme ability to absorb knowledge and carry forth any plan. only bad thing i can say about these fearless people is that more often then not they are too limited in their view of the reality, though taken to the up most degree of seriousness to you its still just a game. ( most cases i find these people are often good looking and a gifted body in strength and control unless they let them selves go...)

    4.(ENFJ,INTP,ESFP,ISTJ)

    the " Alex " derived from the movie" A clockwork orange", the mind set of the protagonist Alex Burgess captures this role almost completely. a menace by choice of sheer will in an attempt to understand all there is to be understood, to weave through the human psyche with careless ease after all its all one big joke isn't it? short and agile these guys knows where to hit to hurt or not hurt i guess lol.


    Yes all 16 temperaments are Very different People but take a second and reflect on why people do the things they do or act and i think you'll see that it is almost possible to slide between the roles within each model, Example being an INFP you might find the methods of ENTJ to be ruthless and would never consider a similar approach to life but i'm willing to bet that you'd be surprised how good you'd be able to emulate him.
    I know the use of my language is sometimes confusing and often irrelevant to the point im trying to make but please feel free to attack this anyway you see fit don't hold back ask me questions! i don't fully understand it either!?

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by hantt
    i hope i don't sound crazy because i don't have nearly enough empirical evidence to support this but here it goes,

    we all know that there are 16 different temperaments, but i purpose that...
    I made it there before assuming the following idea wasn't going to change my opinion.
    Double-check your text if you want what it holds to be taken with respect.

    Also, thanks for simultaneously describing me as a beast and a menace.
    It makes me look far cooler than I am.

    As a whole, it's pretty typist, though.
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    INTJ - The Scientists

    maybe my casualness may hide the seriousness of the post, if this is even remotely true which i "feel" like it is then will hopefully aid to help tie the cap between physiology and biology. Please don't hold back on the criticism, i take pride in the theory I've purposed but i want it to be right and what doesn't kill it will only make it stronger!


    also while i'm at it i'd like to say that I think N's are rare just like how Bird paradise are, in that a special niche leads to special breeds.

    (super clam setting)l--R-----------G--------------------l---------A---------------<(@_@)>-----l(ape shit crazy)
    on this make shift chart is how i think early childhood development/environmental affects the temperament as the child develops, when things are steady ( and yes playing outside though fun would not count as steady, getting locked up in a room and forced to practice piano for 2 hours is in that there is less sensory input to be chewed and such case would produce a rational child, and vise versa when your life is wackattack then you probably turn into an idealist as represented by the crying fat kid.

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    i agree with you in that this is a very typist we are all very unique in our own ways regardless of temperament, and yes i do lack the much sufficient evidence, but at this point i see this as more of a question for people to answer in either yes i also have noticed this or no i have not noticed this as all and is wrong. i'm also asking (kindly) of course to try and maybe identify themselves with the temperaments I've grouped just for fun, see if you notice similar underlying principles about the underlying common goal in the grouped temperaments. and yes it's impossible to be purple and green at the same time i'm just saying it took blue to get you to both?

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    ENFP - The Inspirers


    @hantt
    You need to get out more and meet real people. It might give you a better understanding of types.

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by hantt View Post
    please feel free to attack this anyway you see fit don't hold back
    Aside from the main content of the post, posting this phrase in the INTJ forum was probably the worst mistake you made here.
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    INTJ - The Scientists


    Quote Originally Posted by hantt View Post
    please feel free to attack this anyway you see fit
    CHAAAAAAARGE! *sends in cavalry*
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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by hantt View Post
    i hope i don't sound crazy because i don't have nearly enough empirical evidence to ...................

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    i don't fully understand it either!?

    If you put INFP's and ENTJ's together in one group, then you really need to study some more.

    And you describe yourself as "good looking and a gifted body in strength and control". I mean, you could have tried to make it a little less obvious that you are trying to make yourself feel better about yourself with your "research" and "theories".
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    INTJ - The Scientists

    LOL. 10laughingmyassoffchar.

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    I actually got the idea in a very loose way.

    I can see why ENTJ and INFP were put together in a conceptual thinking way. I don't fully understand it though (the reason why I got it). But it's all wrong compared to what I have seen before.

    The body typing with morphs is not a new concept. It's been mapped out on a head chart somewhere here. I am a cross between mesomorph and ectomorph (and I am mid height to tall) which apparently fit INTJ (which sits nowhere in the head chart). In terms of the idea above I would be ENTJ.

    I don't agree that it is typist. I think that MBTI in general is typist as it does tend to put all of us rare and unique snowflakes into a big fat grouping so that every barstard and their dog can come to troll us freaks in one spot (INTJ forum of course).
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